Suggestions on 1190 exhaust options?

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  1. gunshot72

    gunshot72 Knee down an 1190 ADV

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    Nope because half of it is the stock section that is welded to the cat by the chaps at KTM so you cannot get rid of it unless it is cut up. Only the second half is Scorpion made. As you probably know the heat shield is only there on the stock unit and Akra unit to protect the pillion but as the Scorpion is at a different angle and much narrower there is no need. It certainly is longer as you can see from the two pics below but this is done specifically to stop the right rear indicator from melting. Will look better once I get the racks fitted.

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  2. dragos

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    It looks good, but why Remus, Wings etc don't need such a long exhaust in order not to melt the indicators? (I'm just curious, because I don't have an issue with the length, quite the opposite).
    It looks to me that the exhaust itself is horizontal (like all the others), not upwards.
  3. gunshot72

    gunshot72 Knee down an 1190 ADV

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    I'm not sure about Wings etc but Scorpion had one or two customers with the first edition of the exhaust they made for the 1190 which was a little shorter than the latest one (in my pics) where the hot gases were swirling around the indicator and melting it slightly. Just one or two however but they decided to redesign for safety.
  4. gunshot72

    gunshot72 Knee down an 1190 ADV

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    Oh I should also say that the Scorpion is deliberately closer in to the rear end (narrower) because it is designed to work with the Metal Mule balanced luggage system. This means the panniers will be the same size on both sides and as narrow overall as possible. I'll show you what I mean with a few pics once the racks and panniers are on. So, this is why the Scorpion has more chance to melt an indicator. The Wings and Remus exhausts etc will be further outwards (away from the bike) so the gases miss the indicator.
  5. gunshot72

    gunshot72 Knee down an 1190 ADV

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    Scorpion are planning a new heat shield design for this exhaust, probably CF, and I'm helping them with this. Will keep you all posted.
  6. Bluesilver

    Bluesilver Been here awhile

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    I have one of the first 1190's build and fitted the Wings when they first launched. I went for the "long" can as I run the KTM luggage and in 45deg Celsius ambient heat, two up full loaded, had no issues with heat from the can. The fit was perfect, took me more time to remove the stock can and the finish is excellent.
  7. MarchHare

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    But as gunshot says there should be no issues running a long exhaust in the conventional position. The problems arise when you bring it in close to the tail to reduce the width of the panniers. Then it will be too close to the indicator unless redesigned to clear it.
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  9. venator390

    venator390 n00b

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    Check out an outfit called "Wings" www.wings.si/. Very nicely made, UPS right to your door, and about 1/2 the price of Akropovic. I have one on my 1190 Adventure, and am very pleased.
  10. madatter

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    I want the Wings shorty...
    However I have the KTM hard parts touring panniers and am unsure wether they will be compatible.
    Wings supplier here in Canada is being a bit vague on the subject.
    Says the long Wings is ok tho....
    Anyone have experience with this combo?
  11. elyobelyob

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    Same setup. A massive waste of space on the exhaust side, as the shorty is too much smaller, now would prefer a bigger RHS pannier. I did a 500 mile touring weekend and didn't see any issues. What issues were you concerned about?
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  13. madatter

    madatter Been here awhile

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    After discussing the Wings shorty by phone with Alternate Cycle I'm comfortable with ordering the shorty and how it will be with the KTM touring panniers.
    Looking forward to the sweet sound....I had one on my 690 and loved the Wings.
  14. Redherring

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    Scorpion had exactly this issue with their (very good) can for the triumph Explorer. They ended up replacing FOC most of the cans they initially supplied which must have cost them a lot of money. So I'm surprised they made the same mistake again.
  15. AJAdvRider

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    I am fairly new to after market exhausts but had to jettison the 1190 can for a Wings shortie after seeing the first pics and hearing the sound bytes. One thing that has concerned me is the statement on the Wings site regarding maintenance in that the damping wool needs changed at an unspecified time but when hot spots are observed. Anyone have any experience to what length of time in use this may occur?

    Did some research online and most info indicates that lower cost exhaust systems can require this repacking of wool every 2 years where higher cost ones don't use fiberglass or wool material but built in metal chambers that never wear out.

    Appreciate any feedback from your experience...regards
  16. dragos

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    That's the reason Wings and Remus are so small while the OEM or Akra are so big.
    It's not entirely true that the ones with metal chambers *never* wear out, they can rust in time.
  17. Suddenstop

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    Not so sure its a cost thing, vs design tradeoffs. Weight and size. It's not something I would worry about, they can go for a long time. If after a couple years you notice the exhaust sounds louder or too loud for your liking - repack it. Not that hard to do as long as the packing is available and cheap (name brand slip on).
  18. Bluesilver

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    Packing is cheap you right, fitment is easy and I'd not say cause they use GF or "wool" they are cheaper, for me they a damn sight lighter and allow the Twins to really open up. Even my wives Full FMF TI system on her CRF150RB has to be repacked but the benefits far out weight the maintenance, to date, not repacked either and when depends how you ride and how the motor is running so, how long is a piece of string.:1drink
  19. snipes285

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    I had the arrow full system on my Super Tenere and I see Arrow also has the slip on for the 1190 Adventure.
    Has anyone got the Arrow slip on?
    I plan on keeping the stock headers and just adding the slip on. Arrow offers it in Aluminum or Titanium (+$200 for Ti), not sure Ti is worth $200 more??
    Is weight the only difference/advantage?
  20. alongat

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    Bragging rights too for the titanium. I doubt highly that the titanium weighs that much less compared to the aluminum version given that it's simply a "sleeve". No Wings muffler for you then?