Super Tenere Tire thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Chillis, Feb 9, 2018.

  1. Chillis

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    I want to have a compilation of tire info for this bike. There is plenty of info scattered everywhere and I'd like to compile the info into one or two posts at the beginning of the thread. Hopefully this can helps us all find our best rubbers based on use, cost, performance, longevity, refinement.

    What I am proposing is to get real world data on tires you have used in very concise points. The format will be as follows:

    Tire model
    Total mileage
    Vibration on street from light, medium, to heavy
    Wet performance good or bad
    Dry performance good or bad
    Dirt performance mild, medium, aggressive

    I don't want this to be too technical and confusing and if anybody has more efficient ways to rate them then I am all ears.

    What I will be doing is adding the info into an average based on all data given so we can get a general basis of how the options stack up and guide future purchases.
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  6. Killacurb

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    Well I’ll just say I’m running the Shinko 804/805’s. Picked the set up for $160 so figured it was worth a shot. I am really impressed with handling in wet and dry on road. I have ridden a few long stretches in bad weather and they never stepped out on me, very confidence inspiring. They have been awesome every time I’ve taken them off-road as well, except for deep sand.
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  7. yamalama

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    Mitas E 07 back 10000 k's wet: good. dry: good. vibe: good. dirt: decent - no likee mud.
    TKC 80 front 7000 k's - 1/2 worn bad cupping. wet: good. dry: good. vibe: good for the first 5000 k's. dirt: good.
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  8. Killacurb

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    Hey Joe, your dislike of the Shinko 804/5 surprised me. My experience with them is quite the opposite. As stated previously I have ridden these tires on some pretty pretty nasty Northwet weather and they performed very well on pavement. My excursions off road have been mostly fair weather. I have never had any vibration isssues as well. Sure, it’s not as smooth riding as an 80/20 tire but still rides well for me. As for mileage I never expected them to last more than 5000 miles. I’ve got 2000 miles on them now and will probably get another 2000 out of them before they are replaced, and I’m good with that. Bottom line for me is they allow me to play on/off road with confidence. Maybe the guy at the Shinko factory had a bad hangover the day your tires were manufactured? :beer

    Good luck with the Heidenau’s!
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  9. stevent

    stevent Been here awhile

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    I went through a few sets of Tourance's on my R12GS, I was very happy with them. I got around 12k miles as I recall, I always replace tires in sets so I can't remember which wore out first front or rear though. I don't have many miles on the stock Battlewings on my Tenny but I'm pretty impressed with them so far, good wet tire if nothing else.
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  10. CJBDRdude

    CJBDRdude Ridin'offroadCJ

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    Running Shinko 804/805 combo myself and I'm impressed how smooth they are on the pavement. I'm a dirtbike guy first, so after breaking in the S10 with the awful battlewing things, it was time for a set of knobbies. The price of the TK80s is outrageous imo. No knobbie will last super long if used primarily on the pavement and any knobbie that is DOT is a compromise offroad. I was looking hard at the Mitas E O7 but I see too many rears worn in the center too quickly. I personally don't have a problem changing out rear 805s if I get decent traction offroad. Offroad on my S10 is pretty much jeep roads and seasonal roads, not trails. Like Joe mentions, the S10 is NOT a dirtbike even though some of us ride them offroad. I own dirt bikes for serious offroad riding. The S10 is my street bike.

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  11. HandCanonShootr

    HandCanonShootr Been here awhile

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    Mitas E07 Dakars here.

    2012 S10 Had Ankee 3s on when I bought her,

    I've loved my E07 Dakars from the first. On road, dry pavement great, scuffed to the edges, and I (occasionally) drag my toes/pegs in the twisties. Wet Pavement, heavy rain no problem, never a slip. Dry Jeep trails, great, rocky roads & ledges good within the limits of a heavy beast. Not good in mud, particularly that red clay AZ mud!, deep sand poor also. On a wide smooth gravel haul road, very planted, the bike always wanted (& felt able) to go faster then I was comfortable). 33-36 psi F&R on pavement, 25psi on dirt F&R.
    My dirt use medium duty, sometimes carrying weight offroad. (anytime offroad with the S10 that is :lol3) These tires took me to Toroweap, were fairy sufficient for 5 days & 225 mi offroad. Shoulda mounted a knobby front for that.

    1st set E07 Dakar, Front & Rear were repl after 7300 mi. (R worn out, F warr repl: leaking)
    2nd Rear was replaced at 7000mi (had about 1000 left if need be)
    3rd Rear was repl after another 7000 miles (same as above)
    my 2nd front E07 has almost 15000mi on it will be replaced soon. Looks like s#!t Very cupped, worn to center bar, a little bumpy rolling the bike around, but really still grip great, had this front off road (recently), and was still fine, also is scuffed hard right to the edge of the tread.

    I'll keep using the Dakars, like how they look also. :happay

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  12. Don T

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    Great idea with a thread like this - I'll do my part and chime in.

    Picked up a new S10 in the fall of 2015.

    Bridgestone BW-502
    17.500 km - still some life left at this point.
    No vibrations
    Good in the wet.
    Good in the dry.
    Like a street tire on dirt.

    Continental TKC 70
    15.400 km - plenty of life left at this point, but the front had developed very bad heel/toe/uneven wear, resulting in vibrations and bad handling.
    Increasing vibrations from the front from early on.
    Excellent in the wet.
    Good in the dry.
    Decent dirt performance (in the dry).

    Michelin Anakee 3
    21.500 km - close to the wear indicators in the front - even wear both front and rear all through the tire life.
    No vibrations - but the front is noisy at certain speeds.
    Excellent in the wet.
    Excellent in the dry.
    Surprisingly good traction on dry dirt.

    Pirelli Scorpion Trail II
    10.600 km - replaced because of a puncture caused by a nail in the rear tire, just prior to a longer ride.
    Plenty of life left in the rear. The front had started cupping and didn't have too much life left.
    No vibrations.
    Excellent in the wet.
    Excellent in the dry.
    Decent dirt performance (in the dry).

    MotoZ Tractionator GPS
    Still scrubbing them in...

    I ride solo and have run all the tires at 33 psi front/39 psi rear.
    As you have probably guessed from my choice of tires, I spend most of my time on tarmac, with some gravel and dirt roads thrown into the mix.
    I'm an experienced rider who have done several track days over the years - as a result it's natural for me to wear my tires to the edge. I'm not an aggressive rider but enjoy to carry high corner speeds.
    Non of the tires prior to the MotoZ Tractionator GPS feel at home off road (but handles dry dirt roads just fine).
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  13. Swen13

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    I am not on a Super Tenere, but on an Africa Twin CRF1000L. After 7500 miles now with the Shinko 804/805 I can confirm what you said here.
    It is impressive how good the Shinkos are on pavement, I never expected something like this from any knobby tire. Even in the wet they were OK, better than the OEM tires on the Africa Twin. The Shinko were good for about 7500 miles for me. The only reason why I didn't buy them again is that the front tire is horrible in sand, very unpredictable and nearly dangerous to ride. We have a lot of deep sand in my area, but when you don't ride in the sand I would recommend them, the value is pretty good, they look awesome, have good traction and last long enough !!!

    Now I run a set of Pirellie Scorpion Rally on my bike, but this won't be an option for most here (must say they are 100 times better in the sand, but won't last that long). Hope my review helps a bit.
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  14. Don T

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    There are numerous tire threads here on advrider - the AT is a different beast with different wheel sizes - the same tire often perform differently on different bikes.
    Could we try to keep this thread on topic and only post tire experiences related to the S10..?
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  15. Killacurb

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    Dude, chill. Swen was just throwing out his $.02 on the Shinko. Of course they are different bikes, but his contribution could certainly help someone in the process of deciding on new tires for a big bike.
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  16. glenn2926

    glenn2926 Been here awhile

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    Anyone used Avon trailriders yet? If you have what do think of them?
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  17. Chillis

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    Not sure but I just ordered some Trekriders. Reviews seemed to be good.
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  18. xs2

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    anyone have exp with motoz out of Australia, have heard good things and just today saw a set look very good, hope someone jnows?
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    Keep us posted. I am thinking of ordering a set myself.
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  20. LOFTYBOB

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    I am using the Tractionator GPS on my 1200 Explorer XCA for the last 5,000 km's, and they are heaps better than the Heidenau's I used on my Super Tenere.

    Better grip on wet/cold pavement, a lot better grip on dirt (the rear tire is reversible for even more dirt road grip) and after 5K, the wear rate seems negligible, so I would estimate my 50/50 riding will see over 15,000Km's out of this set.

    I am very impressed, and will buy another set.
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