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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by markbvt, Jun 1, 2011.
We'll know when we find out who killed Rosie Larsen.
We will get a couple more blurry pictures on the 22nd, and the full bike will be revealed at the press junket in Croatia on the 27th. We may see some spy pictures break before then but I doubt it or they'd be out by now.
Ironic posts are ironic.
It's gotta be a video clip of a dude in DS helmet walking up to a bike, turning the ignition on, headlamps on, starting the engine and its chattering... Then he takes off, rides some dirt, stops at the sunset and pops a beer... That's it...
Motociclismo.it has some pics, kind of hard to tell what to expect, but not wery much i guess, maybe 19 or even a 21" font wheel conventional fork and som new fairings, thats it..
Those are old pictures... Nothing new...
I just sold/bought another Wee. What shocked me is how much used prices had gone up. Bought a used 08 a year ago with 10k miles in London fully loaded for £3250 and sold it a couple of weeks ago within 24 hours for £3200 with 20k miles. It sold quickly as most bikes were advertised around the £4k mark. Almost no depreciation and if I would have been patient I would have been able to sell it for a profit.
Then I bought another 09 Wee in Perth, Australia for $7500 with 8k km. I was offered a brand new 11 for $8990 but that was in South Australia and needed delivering, which adds $800. The only reason why I went for the used one is that in Perth new bikes are $1000 more than in the rest of Australia.
Now... My point. If the all new Wee would have been $10k I would have bought that as in increase of $2k over a used/ older version bike is reasonable.
I need a bike for commuting but couldn't wait to find out when exactly they are going to release the new bike. If they would have given me a "available from" date I could have waited but this marketing campaign is so useless all we know is that "one day in July" we will know more about the new Wee. It might not be sold until "Spring 2012".
They could have at least released some facts about the bike like " all improved range, suspension and low range torque" so that we know at least a little bit more than that up close it looks like a motorcycle.
Apple tell you 6 months in advance when they are going to release a new product so that you don't buy a competitors product in the meantime.
Now that is clever. Consumers plan their spending around the product life cycle and can sell the "obsolete product" or save for the new one in anticipation of the new one.
I am happy about the fact that Suzuki seem to be spending their cash on developing reliable engines rather than a decent marketing department.
Reminds me of those really bad home made used car sales ads on channel 43 in the US of A.
"Hi, I am Chuck Mitchell, from Mitchell Suzuki and today I am going to make you an offer you can resist! Tune in next week to find out more!!"
But on the other hand, they seem to have saved so much, you'd think that they'd be a technological tour de force by now.
Come on! Someone had to turn it around
You know what the UK Suzuki teaser says?
"The next installment of the teaser is coming"
For those of you on Facebook and subscribed or "Liking" Suzuki Scoop, the official source for Suzuki motorcycles, you saw this item this afternoon (6/20/2011):Suzuki Scoop
Hey Scoop Fans, were going to have the big reveal on the Middle-class New Motorcycle in a couple of weeks! Check out suzukicycles.com tomorrow for more unveiling. In the mean time, what do you think it is based upon the pictures that have been going around?
There are a couple of commentators condemning the "tease." Just get on with it.
So, let's see what they "reveal" tomorrow.
Guess how many times and for how long I'm gonna show up at Suzuki Dealerships and pretend unveiling myself as a potential buyer..
Amen brother !
........its inside Al Capone's vault with Geraldo Rivera.
A lot of enthusiasm, I hope it bears fruit.
It's odd to be announcing a new bike nearly 2 months after the peak spring and summer sales period. My local dealership has no idea when it is due in so given the short riding season here, if it isn't out by next week (beginning of July) it may as well wait until next season because very few will be buying a bike come July. While Canada certainly isn't Suzuki's largest market if you couple it with the northern USA you're looking at a large market where the season is 50% over. The lower USA, it's irrelevant in comparison when the bike is released.
Couple this with this being a niche market bike, not a halo model like a GSXR1000 and it is even more odd.
Hopefully this bike is worth the fan fervour but TBH I'm wondering if people are expecting much more in the way of change, beyond the move to 800 cc. Given the economy, the niche market of adventure riding and Suzuki's relative lack of interest in the adventure class I'm guessing mild upgrades on known problem areas and likely a slightly more off road oriented package to compete with the new 800s. But I wonder if Suzuki is going to invest significantly in facing off against KTM or BMW. They didn't need to do much to the build something successful the first go around; and the customers that want the Vstrom didn't necessarily want the 12GS and vice versa. Kawasaki didn't have to do much to make the KLR modern and competitive again, I don't think Suzuki needs to make much of a leap either.
Didn't know that the KLR was made modern and competitive
Don't know why people would buy something when the price is up, instead of buying when the price is low, as in late fall...
Concerning the timing of this campaign, perhaps it was something concocted overnight, hence the odd timing, or maybe not given the small market in Canada- they couldn't care less.
As with cars, aren't new model years usually started after summer break? This is going to be MY 2012 for the V-Strom so the timing of introduction seems right on. It'll take a while before they start arriving at dealers so perfectly in time for next season. And in many southern states and southern Europe, riding season is much longer or all year long.
Can it run with a KTM or Husaberg no but by the definition of success that manufacturers adhere to the KLR is still a top selling enduro. How much did that face lift cost Kawasaki to modernize it and breath fresh air into the model? Love it or hate it the KLR has a bigger following than the Vstrom and a much more storied RTW record to boot. The new model, with attention to minor foibles in the old models 19 plus yr. run saw the bike gain renewed interest. Yeah that's modernizing it and making it competitive in my book. Yeah it is lacking in FI, top quality suspension etc. and yet my local dealership still has it as a top seller. Ask any dealership if they would ever have a problem taking a KLR in on trade; they know they will be able to move it eventually.
I doubt they could concoct it overnight. Even a parts bin special requires a budget and planning and the bean counters will still take into consideration the market. It's not just the Canadian market, it's beyond the peak sales season for most markets.
Can we all say a little prayer here.
"Please God, don't let Suzuki make as much of a mess to the Vstrom, as Kawasaki made to the KLR. We pleaded with them for a more dirt-worthy bike and fix the silly doo hickey and they gave us a road bike and still not a proper doo hickey and spring, just a different one."
Thank you God.
Dreaming of a Vstrom thats a rally replica, 800cc, decent suspension.........snooze...........snooze