Suzuki GW250

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by JerryH, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. Süsser Tod

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  2. JerryH

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    I have had a couple of fast bikes (ZX11, YZF1000) and got bored with them. If you could actually use that power it might be different. But whacking the throttle open for a few seconds while watching for cops just isn't what I call fun. I want a bike that is fun on twisty roads but that can also be ridden long distances. It also has to be affordable, which eliminates almost everything. I have over 20,000 freeway miles on a Honda Rebel 250 with no problems, other than it was just physically to small for me and was not comfortable. Highway pegs and a Protac backrest helped a lot.
  3. Klay

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    +1

    I like bikes that are happy at legal speeds. I've owned many powerful bikes and am just plain tired of them.
  4. Kommando

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    Yup. That CBX250 seems to get it. The Nighthawk 250, updated to this century.

    These other smaller bikes that weigh as much as, or more than, bikes with 2x or more displacement kind of defeat a lot of the purpose. Why wouldn't I just put my noob GF on a lowered DR650SE instead? It weighs 367lb and has less than 40WHP. I can find them all day long for less than $4K.
  5. vicster

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    Those of you anxiously awaiting the arrival of the GW (GrossWeight?)250 may want to back it down a notch until you've actually seen one. This thing is by far the ugliest stock bike I have ever seen, and I am not a young man.It looks much worse in person, trust me. The pictures don't really capture the poor proportioning or the overwheming size of that front fender. When I saw it at the IMS I at first couldn't figure out what it was doing at the Suzuki stand as it really does look like a Kymco gone bad.
    It's also heavier. longer, with more conservative geometry than its competition and is, according to Suzuki, tuned for low to mid rpm performance, so it's on road performance isn't likely to be much either.
    Sorry, I don't normally comment on a bike's looks, as I know it's subjective and the least important bike quality to me personally, but...wow.
  6. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    :dog

    No one is expecting it to be a class leader in performance.. and all the other
    stuff you listed.. as us computer guys say.. "It's a feature, not a bug.".

    Some want a "conservative" bike.
    I for one love them for doing a "full-sized" bike in the 250cc category,
    like Honda used to have a Hornet 250 (same as 599 and 919).

    There's plenty to choose from in the 250cc screamer category.
    I want diesel torqu down low.
  7. vicster

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    Then if you buy one, you will likely be happy with it, Cortez.
    Do you feel the lack of body work is a feature also? Some prefer naked in their smaller, more basic bikes.

    Have you seen one in person yet?

    Here in the U.S, I think its success is going to be very price dependant. It has a lot of competition from the CBR250 and a ton of used and new small Ninjas. Suzuki's auto division here in America did file bankruptcy so it will be interesting to see how that affects their bike pricing.
  8. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    It's very unlikely I'll buy a bike like that since I'm now on a scooter with more
    power and miss the power I had in the last bike (just 72hp), but it would be
    (most likely) my first choice if the price is right. For example, Ninja 250,
    while probably the best value in the category, would be my last.

    Yes.
    I'd actually be even happier with the way it looks if it had the old style
    round headlight like the YBR250 and CBF250.

    Nope, but I'm looking forward to it. I can understand the front fender
    issue, though.
    :deal

    Nothing to add but agree with what you said.

    The "pattern" of how the motorcycle industry works in USA seems (to me)
    to be easier to follow then our local stuff (EU).

    Here, for example, you won't find a single CBR250R on the road.

    The reason? It costs the same as the Ninja 250R, and 90% of buyers
    in that category will buy bikes on power/specs alone. R bike looks helps
    too.

    The 300R will never sell well here, I'm 98% sure of that since it costs
    virtually the same as the 650R.

    I'm sure I'd love the 300R more then I did my 650R, but at those prices,
    I'd get a NC700S or NC700X and never look back.
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    The only thing that matters to me about a bike like this is how it looks and feels from the saddle. If it is reasonably comfortable, and capable of freeway travel (my air cooled Rebel 250 was) , and if I can figure out a way to carry stuff on it, and because it has tubeless tires that can be repaired without a centerstand, I like it. Unlike most everybody here, I am looking for a bike to ride. Just ride. Not a sport bike, I can't handle the ergos on one of those. I would prefer it not be a cruiser, but that would be ok, if a 250 cruiser fit the bill. I am NOT looking for power or handling beyond what is necessary to cruise down the highway. Some say this bike is ugly, then turn around and praise the Honda NC700X, the ugliest motorcycle I've ever seen. IF this does not work out, my only other choice will be a 250cc or larger scooter. There are no other 250cc bikes that meet my needs. I have non issues with a scooter, I already have 3, but none of them are freeway legal. I was going to get a larger one when I saw this and became intrigued by it. So I at least intend to check it out, IF it ever shows up.
  10. SilkMoneyLove

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    The thing is, with freeway legal scooters, you end up well into the price range of the 250 MC offerings.
    Still, it is an option. I thing all of the little bike/big scooter offerings/competition are a good thing.
    Hopefully, cheap smaller bikes get new riders started.
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    Have you looked at the TU250?


  12. jas67

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    Check out the CBR250R. It only looks like a sport bike. The ergos are standard.

    Also, the new CB500F, due here in the spring is another standard that may work well for you too.
  13. Süsser Tod

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    Grossly underpowered for a 250.
  14. Cortez

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    +1

    That thing needs a V-twin from the Kymco Venox or VTR 250 (both ~28hp).
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    I checked it out at the motorcycle show. I wish they'd put that engine in a TU250 frame. I think it would be better ergonomically.
  17. Birdmove

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    Is the TU frame larger and roomier?


  18. Klay

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    It might actually be smaller...but the seating position of the TU feels roomier...saddle is flat and roomy, while the saddle on the GW is sort of U-shaped and I felt wedged into position while sitting on it. That was my preliminary impression.
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    It is an artists rendering, clearly strangely scaled pieces of speed triple photoshopped together.