Suzuki S40 / Savage - Ryca Scrambler Conversion

Discussion in 'Some Assembly Required' started by Krasniewski, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. Krasniewski

    Krasniewski I don't ride much.

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    Got a little more done yesterday. Busted out the frame cutting guide, which calls for cutting some of the brackets, tank holders, etc. off to size, as well as the seat posts. The seat post measurements didn't really look right to me, so I'm gonna hold off on those until I get the parts in. There are Youtube vids for all the mods out there, maybe I'll watch the vid and QA myself that way too.

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    One stock, one cut:
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    Seat posts I can't quite get myself to cut:
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    Cleaned up the cuts and painted afterwards.
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  2. kellymac530

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    Never been a fan of the Savage in stock form, not a fan of "cruiser" style bikes in general. But that conversion kit to a scrambler really looks great. Looks like a blast to cruise back roads and fire roads.

    I am in on one of these.
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  3. JerryH

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    While I am not exactly a fan of the cruiser look I became a fan of cruisers a long time ago when I found out how comfortable they were. I bought a '93 Kawasaki Vulcan 750 new, and put just over 80,000 miles on it before selling it. About a year later, missing the bike, I bought another new Vulcan 750, an '02 model, and currently have over 70,000 miles on it. These bikes are super comfortable, have plenty of power for one up touring, are almost maintenance free, and very reliable. It is the cruiser ergonomics that make them so comfortable. A big wide plush seat, high pullback bars, and forward mounted pegs. Add a rider backrest, and you have a recliner on wheels. I have done 2 SS1000s on the Vulcan 750 without pain, just a little minor discomfort from sitting in the same position for so long. Cruisers are far more comfortable than crotch rockets or dual sport bikes.
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  4. sjc56

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    For me it's bikes like my Uly which are comfortable, a cruiser ergos just don't work for me, puts all the weight on my tail bone and with my feet out front I just don't feel like I'm in control of the bike. Thats why it's great there are so many different bikes to chose from.
    I really like the savage scrambler, If I ever come into one cheap I wouldn't mine doing this.
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  5. barko1

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  6. Krasniewski

    Krasniewski I don't ride much.

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    Well said. I don't mind riding cruisers, but I've found ADV style bikes to be the best in terms of comfort for me.

    The scrambler should be fun for back roads - I imagine it's a bit small for the long days. I can't imagine touring on the Savage in stock form though. Not that you can't, just wouldn't my first tool of choice.

    Anyday for that kit now... :ear
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  7. kellymac530

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    Jerry,
    I have had a few "cruiser" bikes and they always killed my back and butt. Bad angle on my low back and tailbone as others have stated I prefer a more upright riding position of a GS/GSA or my RT.
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  8. JerryH

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    The "upright" riding position is what I like about cruisers. Your entire weight is supported by the seat. Unlike a sportbike, you are not all hunched over, with your knees bent double, your neck stretched as far as it will go so you can see where you are going, and most of your upper body weight supported by your arms and shoulders. A riders backrest on a cruiser makes a huge difference and gives you a lot of back support. While I don't suspect the Savage 650 would make a good touring bike, it would work a lot better for me than any type of sport bike. Dual sport bikes like the KLR don't have an uncomfortable riding position, their main problem is the narrow, hard as a rock seat. I traded an '01 KLR650 I had bought new for another (I've had 2) new Vulcan 750 after only one year. I found the KLR to be to big and heavy to be fun off road, and the Vulcan to be much more comfortable on the road. I wound up with an XT225 for off road. It also has a comfortable layout, but again the seat is what would stop me from trying to ride long distances on it. I remember back in the late '70s/early '80s when dual sport bikes like the Honda XL500 had much better seats. Today looks are what counts, and they try to make dual sport seats look like MX seats, not thinking I guess that the seat is something you only bump into occasionally on an MX bike.


    Somehow a Buick just doesn't sound like fun....
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  9. Krasniewski

    Krasniewski I don't ride much.

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    KLR is about as cheap of an 'adventure' (not off-road) bike as you can get, so everything sucks, including the seat. I put a Sargent seat on mine, along with a few other things, of course.

    I had a GSA that had a pretty good seat once. I will say that the worst seat I ever experienced was on my past Sportster... that was absolutely unbearable. I pulled the cover and shaved it down a bit around the tailbone and it was basically fine after that. I hope the seat for the Ryca isn't too bad.
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  10. RedRaptor22

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    Sounds like you were doing it completely horribly wrong, there should never be weight on your arms and shoulders and your neck should be inline with the rest of your spine for the most part, on a sport bike your legs are what carry your weight, nothing else.

    As for dualsport bikes they are just like anything else, suck horribly untill you make them fit you and luckily seats are cheap, as are bars.

    I've owned a royal star venture which was about the couchiest road couch I've ever had the displeasure of sitting on, put about two hundred miles on it before I could take it no longer, my back was killing me, even worse with my uncles soft tail, the sport touring bikes like the FJR and ST1300 are what I would take for distance as they have midset controls to relieve all that pressure from my spine.

    Heck I'd probably take my old sportbike over anything else though, I could go well over ten hours on my Sv with it's rearsets and low clip-ons with not a single ache or pain.

    Even my XR650l gives me weird pains in my hips for some reason.

    Basically what I guess I'm saying, cruisers may work best for you, but to some of us they just suck for comfort.
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    Cruiser bikes are NOT upright position. They are laid back position and for ME...it sucks. All of my weight on my butt is NOT what I want. I want to be able to support a bit of my weight at times onmy feet even if it is just for a stretch or for hitting the odd bump. I ride a G/S and an RT and the position on those is not forward on your arms, it is mostly on my butt, but also easily shifted to my legs and thighs....way better.
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  12. Krasniewski

    Krasniewski I don't ride much.

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    Went with a buddy last night to pick up his new-to-him Thruxton... fun times.

    Saw a Triumph scrambler and sat on one for the first time. Granted I'll have a lot less power, but very happy that mine won't be nearly as big or heavy! I am however, madly in love with the color. I wonder if I can get someone to get my project in the same... Matte Khaki Green I believe it's called.

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  13. Krasniewski

    Krasniewski I don't ride much.

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    Got the massively heavy front sprocket (er... what's it called fora belt? Pulley?) off. Used a .50 bullet to lock up the wheel... I knew that'd come in handy one day.

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    Also got the stupid bar risers off... Had to mod some bolts with the tig... perhaps the kit comes with bolts, but I gotta do something here to make the time pass.

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    Also took off the headlight. I'd like to have the (plastic) headlight bucket painted, so I pulled that. Front fender's off as well.
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    For your paint....

    Google, hot rod flatz

    They've got all sorts of awesome flat metallics.
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  15. barko1

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    Seems like an oxymoron???
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    google it and find out
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  18. Krasniewski

    Krasniewski I don't ride much.

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    Awesome link - thanks! Seriously stoked about that place.

    Rock Moss Green is lookin' good too... as is Midnight Green Pearl... and I don't normally like red that much, but Carnival Red Pearl is a looker. Looks like they have an 858 area code, which means they're not too far - always a good thing!
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  19. villageidiot

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    yeah, down in san diego. if in california, and you order, i got my paint next day.
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  20. Krasniewski

    Krasniewski I don't ride much.

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    Nice, I'm in SD, would be cool to just pick it up locally if they're into that kind of thing...

    Not Ryca rrrrrreally thread related, but made some more T-shirts today - mostly related to my other project.

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    And here was my first round, month or two ago:

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    All images shameless stolen off the internats.

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