SV 650 vs V-Strom 650 Curiosity Question

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by uconnapharm, Dec 10, 2005.

  1. uconnapharm

    uconnapharm Been here awhile

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    Talking , strictly on-road ; if I ran a SV 650 all around town on every type of road and situation and then did the same with a V-Strom 650 ;
    what would I notice that was different in how the two performed ?
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  2. HiSPL

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    The Strom would be slightly better around town due to it's engine being tuned for a little more torque.

    The sit up and beg riding position is easier for commuting and there's more storage space with the stock rack and generous seat.

    The Strom has *some* wind and weather protection

    The Strom has cushier suspension too.

    The SV would be the go if you had any twisty highway bits in your commuting and could open the throttle up a little more on occassion.
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  3. gmccon

    gmccon Banned

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    i had the sv for a year or so. sweet bike. ideal for cutting in and out of traffic. so if you're going to commute in town, it would have to be the sv. for everything else, probably the strom
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  4. BikePilot

    BikePilot Long timer

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    For street only I'd think the SV would be much better. It will stick in corners better thanks to sport bike sized tires/compunds, it is much lighter, physically smaller, more powerfull and of course better handling. The DL would be more comfortable and have more wind protection. I wouldn't worry too much about comfort though - I have no problem doing 1k+ mile days on my TL (sportbike). Only thing that would sway me from an SV to a DL for pure street riding would be fuel range and pillion comfort. If either is a top priority the DL is what you need. If not, your on the 'SV's turff IMO.
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  5. rlsrls

    rlsrls SV650, 1200GS

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    Both are great bikes. I have an SV(naked) and A 1200 GS and I choose to ride the SV over the GS for any trips: less then 4 days, 2 up, or when I need to load the bike up with full camping gear, etc...

    To me the SV is just plain fun to ride. Its light and responsive and fairly comfortable. I have bar risers and a givi wind screen that provides just the right amount of wind protection for me and does not have any buffeting or turblent wind noise like GS or DL. The DL is also an awsome bike but it is heavier and it carries its weight higher. The DL that I have ridden from time to time suffered pretty extreem wind buffeting. This could probably be solved by an aftermarket wind screen.

    So, if you plan on taking regular multi day trips or ride 2 up the DL will most likely be better, otherwise I would recommend the SV.
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  6. HarveyMushman

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    I own a Wee-Strom and have put several hundred miles on a SV (the S model, with the half-fairing and clip-ons). The Strom’s gearing is shorter, and better suited to the engine. The Strom is more compliant and controlled over bumps, especially when leaned over. The Strom steers better (the SV’s goofy 120/60 front tire does weird things to the handling, IMHO). The Strom’s ergos are much better suited to riding in traffic—the handlebar gives you more leverage and control, while the sitting position affords you a much better view of all around you. The Strom’s mirrors are better. The Strom is more comfortable. The Strom has better fuel range. The Strom is better for carrying a passenger, or luggage.
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  7. radon222

    radon222 1150GS-ADV

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    If you're gonna riding around the Storrs area, the Strom will be much better for running through the Cow fields :rofl
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  8. uconnapharm

    uconnapharm Been here awhile

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    Is it not AMAZING how top-flight basketball players desire to live surrounded by cow fields ? ( Storrs , CT is home to UCONN )
    No , actually , my riding is done mainly in the western hills of Connecticut.
    ( Litchfield County remains picturesque and rural , despite the urban sprawl of the rest of the state )
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  9. radon222

    radon222 1150GS-ADV

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    That is a wonderful area of the State. I grew up in Naugatuck not too far away. Well hell nothing in CT is really that far away from anything lol.

    Storrs isn't THAT bad....I spend a wonderful 4 years of my life year. The parts I can remember at least :freaky
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  10. Riteris

    Riteris Dessert Runner

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    Tim, just what is it you are trying to say here?
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  11. Riteris

    Riteris Dessert Runner

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    Tim, just what is it you are trying to say here?
    :evil
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  12. DLdeano

    DLdeano Ridin' all I can

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    I used to ride an SV standard; put almost 30K on it before I gave it to the wife...wonderfule bike. A hell of a lot of fun. I did solo tours on it, loaded with soft juggage and a GIVI windscreen. Loved the engine, the way it handled, snappy performance, adequate brakes, and I thought it was really comfy. Only 150 miles from a tank, though. If the wife didn't want it, I would not have parted with it, but it is still at my disposal:evil

    I ride a V strom now. Better all around bike, and better commuter IMO, but doesn't have that "whip my ass into every corner attitude." Still fun, but different feel. Good engine, doesn't seem as rev happy, but will get there. I prefer the Strom...you lose a bit of the hooligan feel, but it is a more grown up motorcycle. Plus it is fun passing squids on something with hard luggage-a sick sense of satisfaction being fast on something that is not supposed to be.

    The SV it felt as if you were riding fast, and wanted to ride fast, but the Strom seems to be sneaky fast. The strom is more comfortable, has better suspension, and stable. The SV took direction changes NOW, where the strom is nimble, but will hold a line better.
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  13. Yogi Kuddha

    Yogi Kuddha n00b

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    "sneaky fast" is right! (DL1000) Sleeper bike, so tough it don't need to advertise it.
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  14. Marvin_ADV

    Marvin_ADV Been here awhile

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    I have a 2nd GEN SV N model and use it quite a bit for everything street. I commute on it, have done long hauls with a suite of soft luggage, and it does track days with aplomb. Great bike and you won't do wrong if you were to use one as an everyday bike. I like the Strom but I can't make any comments on it because I have never ridden one.
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  15. duckman

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    I picked up a left over 04 DL1000 in 1/05 and rode it till 3/08 when it was totaled,i now ride a left over 03 SV1000 that i picked up in 5/08. they are both great bikes but the dl is an easier bike to ride fast.
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  16. nedodjija

    nedodjija Been here awhile

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    I'd have to dissagree with everyone who favours SV650. I had 2000 SV650, then I had 2005 SV650, and now I ride 2008 DL650. All three bikes I rode to work and back every day. These bikes were my basic mean of transportation. Vstrom is easier to manuver in the trafic, you are sitting up more and the handlebars are wider. It does not have as much pep as the SV650, but it is much more confortable and you don't need that much pep for the comute. Now SV is funner bike through the curvy roads, and on the freeway where you can just turn the throttle and feel the power. The same is with the Wee but not as drastic. If you like long rides, and if you are going to use the bike for your daily comute, my vote goes to DL650. This comes form a guy who had both bikes, and used them for commuting and long rides. Good luck.
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  17. Cat0020

    Cat0020 El cheapo

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    Personally, I feel the WeeStrom overweight in comparison to the SV, larger front wheel is really unnecessary for city commute. The wider handlebar makes it easier to maneuver, I put wider handlebar on my Gladius, which is very similar to naked SV650 and it did make the bike feel more maneuverable.

    IMO, SV is not more fun on the freeway, if anything the fairing and windshield on the WeeStrom make it more suitable for freeway riding.
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  18. nedodjija

    nedodjija Been here awhile

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    I assume you owned both bikes. If you did, it is amazing how different people experience differently the same bikes.
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  19. SpaceManSpiff

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    Wow, old thread revival---but I have a (slightly farkled) 04 DL650 and a (moderately tweaked) naked Curvy SV650.

    The DL is a surprisingly nimble bike (with that wide handlebar) with a sweet motor, practical (bright lights, straight up riding position, big luggage rack, comfy passenger accomodations, protection from the elements, really good range on a tank of gas. It also handles very neutral (maybe the 19" front / 17" rear tire combo?). The height of it is nice in traffic to see over cars...and maybe be seen by cars. Is a bit topheavy and can be tough to back up out of inclined parking spots of you are a little short on inseam.

    Somehow, the sv is a just happy puppy dog of a bike. Puts a grin on my face everytime, guaranteed. The lighter weight makes it much snappier than the DL and gives it better handling. The newer S models have an unnecessarily aggressive riding position, I think. For strictly in town or sport riding, I prefer the SV --until i need to pick up groceries, give my GF a ride, etc.

    The SV experience is more...visceral, with no big fairing in front of me, somehow it hits me right in the gut. The DL is so practical it hurts.
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  20. Cat0020

    Cat0020 El cheapo

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    Nope, I have owned a 2002 SV650S and ridden a 2006 DL650 for two weeks as a loaner bike. I'm used to commuting on my dual sport XR650R Supermotard or my 250cc Chinese scooter, both of which weighs under 360 lb. that's wet weight, ready to ride. Even my 2009 Gladius' wet weight is 450 lb.; mine has tail pipe removed (-8 lb.), swapped heavy OEM chrome bar and mirrors to alloy bar and plastic mirrors (-4~5lb.), removed other body plastics (-1lb.)

    2009 Suzuki V-Strom 650 (DL650) - USA Specifications

    Model Number DL650K9
    Type DualSport
    Warranty 12 month unlimited mileage limited warranty.

    Suggested Retail $6,999
    Engine 4-stroke, liquid-cooled, DOHC, 90° V-twin
    Bore & Stroke 81.0 mm (3.189 in) x 62.6 mm (2.465 in)
    Compression Ratio 11.5 : 1
    Fuel System Fuel injection
    Overall Length 2290 mm (90.2 in)
    Overall Width 840 mm (33.1 in)
    Overall Height 1390 mm (54.7 in)
    Seat Height 820 mm (32.3 in)
    Ground Clearance 165 mm (6.5 in)
    Wheelbase 1555 mm (61.2 in)
    Dry Weight 217 kg (479 lbs)

    Specifications: 2003 Suzuki SV650

    Base Price: $5,899
    Warranty: 12 mos., unltd. miles
    Engine Type: Liquid-cooled, transverse 90-degree V-twin
    Displacement: 645cc
    Bore x Stroke: 81.0 x 62.6mm
    Compression Ratio: 11.5:1
    Valve Train: DOHC, 4 valves per cyl.
    Wheelbase: 56.5 in.
    Rake/Trail: 25.0 degrees/3.9 in.
    Seat Height: 31.5 in.
    Dry Weight: 165kg (375 lbs.)
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