SV650 ADV info thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by psychsurf, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. psychsurf

    psychsurf Been here awhile

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    I got a response back from Amazing Ricardo! He's just back from baja, but I invited him to come and share what he knows on this thread when he gets free. Hopefully that will be plenty educational!

    Meanwhile, here is a thread with some photos with him and his bajazuki in baja, of all places.


    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285311

    Here are some threads he sent me the links to. Evidently he documented some of the buildup on labusas.org. Some of the photos are dead there, but I'll poach what I can to post here. There's probably more on that forum, if anyone can figure out how to work their search function.


    http://www.labusas.org/forum/showthr...hlight=project

    http://www.labusas.org/forum/showthr...hlight=project

    http://www.labusas.org/forum/showthr...hlight=project

    http://www.labusas.org/forum/showthr...hlight=project

    http://www.labusas.org/forum/showthr...hlight=project
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  2. psychsurf

    psychsurf Been here awhile

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    I'm just going to pull a couple of pics and some pertinent quotes from the other site. Ricardo, just let me know if you'd rather I didn't cut and paste this way, I can edit if you want me to.

    So that sounds promising!


    He mentions needing a different offset in the forks or a steering stabililzer... Pardon my obvious noob-ness here, but is there any reason I person couldn't just rotate the forks in the clamps by 180 degrees to put the axle behind the forks and increase the trail?

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    Nicely fabbed up skid plate, and looks like off the rack crash bars.

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    Crf-450 rear wheel too? Wonder how much machining is involved there?



    I'm really liking this project, Amazing Ricardo! You've been selfish keeping it all to yourself at labusa! Nice to be able to see the process to some extent, see how it evolves and comes together. Maybe you should build a kit or something. :evil :deal
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  3. lstzephyr

    lstzephyr Solo con rambo

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    hmmm....seems I may just be wrong. Of course that never happens...:D:lurk

    Backwards forks sounds scary/wrong but I don't know why exactly. it might work but I doubt it. Seems to me it would make it worse instead of better. Or not center at all. I'm guessing though, I don't remember enough frame geometry stuff. I do remember choppers sometimes use offset triples to get the trail/geometry in line, but the triples were only half the issue I think.

    Very cool all the same.
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  4. rw4x4van

    rw4x4van East Coast Rider

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    BlueLighting

    Being you have experience with both SV's and DL 650's, any chance you could tell us what parts it took to this transform this bike:clap

    Thanks
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  5. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    That's not my DL. I just had the pictures to it. My vstrom is just normal. My comment was that I don't really see the benefit of doing it to the 2nd gen SV as the DL is already half way there if you just add better front suspension and drop the fairings for some weight.

    That is a very clean example of one though.
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  6. rw4x4van

    rw4x4van East Coast Rider

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    Thanks Blue.......

    If you find anything more on this bike let us know
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  7. Delta88

    Delta88 Knurly Adventurer

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    This type of conversion, (SV and DL), sure is gaining traction, isn't it? I have a box full of take-off parts from mine that has to weigh at least 25 lbs.

    This is my current project DL. Very similar to others I've seen since starting. It was facilitated by a low speed high-side on the freeway last December which destroyed most of the Tupperware and attendant bracketry.

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    The headlight is from a GS500 but I have an SV unit that I will install shortly. The mounting ears and brackets are from a GS1100G and I got them off of ebay for cheap. The brackets don't fit between the triples perfectly and the rubber donuts had to be carved a bit. I think SV parts would work nicely here but I wasn't finding any for what I wanted to pay.

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    The signals are Buell units - $6.00 each from my local H-D Shop. These pics are a few months old and I have since fabbed a mount for the original gauges and installed a license frame that has a little LED strip across the top for a tag light. I ended up putting the factory rack back on after painting it black. I think the tail end actually looks better with it than w/o.
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  8. Vespa

    Vespa n00b

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    Hi guys, converting SV650 to offroad is great idea, I once owned stock S, then switched to DR-Z, great bike and fun, but i really miss the SV engine.

    Anyway, take look how some guy from Czech rep. dealth with it:
    He even rode Erzberg königklasse on it and ended up abut 30th..? Not sure, but not bad performance, when the oponets were KTM LC8s and BMW HP2s.
    What do you think?

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  9. Aceldama

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    Wow, that is badass...

    I'd love to do that to my '99 SV
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  10. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    +1, you got any more info on what Forks, Swingarm, shock, wheels, gas tank, etc is being used on that bike!! :evil :deal
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  11. Vespa

    Vespa n00b

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    BlueLghtning> regrettably I dont have any contact on this guy, I can tell only what I heard:

    Forks seems to be older KTM conventional, front wheel RM250. 2 gas tanks are made of fiberglass. The frame took some serious cuting and welding - mainly the rear shock mounting was reinforced so the bike is capable of bigger jumps and offroad abuse :)
    Under the engine are also some braces to protect the engine and hold the skidplate. (Im not sure about proper technical expression, Im not native english speaker)
    Rear suspension is the biggest mystery, it should be some lever system manufactured by "Métisse" (hope you know what I mean)
    Plastic is mostly KTM, rear fender seems to be Husqvarna
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  12. BlueLghtning

    BlueLghtning Riding is my passion

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    Cool, well thanks for that info!
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  13. SKAKAVAC

    SKAKAVAC Learning the hard way.

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    Almost 2 years since the last reply.
    Anyone have any new news on the SV Enduro from the Czech guy or Gaspare Momesso project.
    Would love to get rake/trail numbers from these bikes.
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  14. SUPer FunK

    SUPer FunK Adventurer

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    yeah, is there any clip on you tube or similar???
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  15. Ridin'nFishin

    Ridin'nFishin Been here awhile

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    I like the conversions and would love to see some more pics and spec info.
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  17. sanjoh

    sanjoh Purveyor of Light

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    Don't be intimidated by a triple tree swap. It's a bit more complicated than using stock. Here are the 41mm forks with a link to the source at the bottom.

    41 Honda CR-250R (81)
    41 Honda XR-250L (91-96)
    41 Honda XR-250R (86-89)
    41 Honda XR-250R (90-04)
    41 Honda XR-350R (83)
    41 Honda XR-350R (84)
    41 Honda XR-350R (85)
    41 Honda CB-400F (89-90)
    41 Honda CR-450R (81)
    41 Honda CBR-600F2 (91-94)
    41 Honda CBR-600SE (98)
    41 Honda XL-600V “Transalp” (89-90)
    41 Honda NT-650 “Hawk GT” (89-91)
    41 Honda NX-650 (88-89)
    41 Honda CB-750 “Nighthawk” (91-03)
    41 Honda RVF-720R (94)
    41 Honda VF-750C “Magna” (94-03)
    41 Honda VF-750C2 “Magna Deluxe” (97-00)
    41 Honda VFR-750F (90-97)
    41 Honda VT-750CDA/B/C/D “Shadow American Classic Ed. Deluxe” (03)
    41 Honda VT-750DC (01-03)
    41 Honda PC-800 (89-90, 94-98)
    41 Honda CBR-1000F “Hurricane” (87-91, 93-96)
    41 Honda VF-1000F “Interceptor” (84)
    41 Honda VTR-1000F “Super Hawk” (98-04)
    41 Honda ST-1100 (91-02)
    41 Honda VF-1100C “V65 Magna” (83-86)
    41 Honda VT-1100C “Shadow 1100″ (85-90, 92-96)
    41 Honda VT-1100C2 (95-99)/ C2-2 (97) “Shadow 1100 American Classic Ed.”
    41 Honda VT-1100C3 “Shadow Aero” (98-02)
    41 Honda VT-1100D2 “Shadow 1100 American Classic Ed.” (99)
    41 Honda VT-1100T “Shadow 1100 American Classic Ed. Tourer” (98-00)
    41 Honda GL-1200 “Goldwing” (84)
    41 Honda GL-1200 I “Interstate” (84-87)
    41 Honda GL-1200L “Ltd” (85)
    41 Honda VTX-1300C (04)
    41 Honda GL-1500 “Goldwing” (88-90)
    41 Honda GL-1500I “Interstate” (91-96)
    41 Kawasaki KX-125 B1 (82)
    41 Kawasaki KX-125 H1 (90)
    41 Kawasaki KDX-200E5-E6 (93-94)
    41 Kawasaki KX-250H1 (90)
    41 Kawasaki KXT-250B1 (86)
    41 Kawasaki EN-500C1-C8 “Vulcan 500 Ltd” (96-03)
    41 Kawasaki EN-500C9 “Vulcan 500 Ltd” (04)
    41 Kawasaki KX-500 E2 (90)
    41 Kawasaki ZX-600D1-D4 “Ninja (ZX-6)” (90-93)
    41 Kawasaki ZX-600E1-E12 “Ninja (ZX-6)” (93-04)
    41 Kawasaki ZX-600F1-F3 “Ninja (ZX-6R)” (95-97)
    41 Kawasaki ZR-750C1-C3 (91-93)
    41 Kawasaki ZR-750F2 (00)
    41 Kawasaki ZX-750K1/K2 “Ninja (ZX-7R)” (91-92)
    41 Kawasaki ZX-750L2-L3 “Ninja (ZX-7)” (94-95)
    41 Kawasaki VN-800 A1-A10 “Vulcan” (95-04)
    41 Kawasaki VN-800 B1-B9 “Vulcan Classic” (96-04)
    41 Kawasaki VN-800 C1-C2 “Vulcan Drifter” (99-00)
    41 Kawasaki ZX-900B1-B4 “Ninja (ZX-9R)” (94-97)
    41 Kawasaki ZG-1000A1-A13 “Concours” (86-98)
    41 Kawasaki ZG-1000A14-A19 (99-04)
    41 Kawasaki ZR-1000A1/A2 (03-04)
    41 Kawasaki ZX-1000B1-B3 “Ninja (ZX-10)” (88-90)
    41 Kawasaki ZX-1100E1-E3 “GPz 1100″ (95-97)
    41 Kawasaki ZG-1200A1/B1-B17 “Voyager XII” (86-03)
    41 Kawasaki KZ-1300A1-A4 (79-82)
    41 Kawasaki ZN-1300A1-A6 “Voyager” (83-88)
    41 Kawasaki VN-1500A1-A5 “Vulcan 88/Vulcan 1500″(87-91), VN-1500 B1-B4″Vulcan 88 SE” (87-90)
    41 Kawasaki VN-1500A6-A13 (92-99)
    41 Kawasaki VN-1500 D1-D2 “Vulcan 1500 Classic” (96-97)
    41 Kawasaki VN-1500 E1-E7 “Vulcan 1500 Classic” (98-04)
    41 Kawasaki VN-1500 G1/G1A/G2 “Vulcan 1500 Nomad” (99-00)
    41 Kawasaki VN-1500J1-J2 “Vulcan 1500 Drifter” (99-00)
    41 Kawasaki VN-1500 L1-L5 “Vulcan 1500 Nomad Fi” (00-04)
    41 Kawasaki VN-1500N1-N3 “Vulcan 1500 Classic Fi” (00-02)
    41 Kawasaki VN-1500R1-R4 “Vulcan 1500 Drifter” (01-04)
    41 Suzuki RM-125 L (90)
    41 Suzuki RM-125 L (90)
    41 Suzuki RM-250 K/L (89-90)
    41 Suzuki RM-250 K/L (89-90)
    41 Suzuki RMX-250 K/L (89-90)
    41 Suzuki RMX-250 K/L (89-90)
    41 Suzuki AN-400 K3/K4 (03-04)
    41 Suzuki GSF-400 M/N/P “Bandit” (91-93)
    41 Suzuki GSF-600 ST/SV/SW “Bandit” (96-98)
    41 Suzuki GSF-600 ST/SV/SW “Bandit” (96-98)
    41 Suzuki GSF-600 SX//SY/SK1/SK2/SK3 “Bandit” (99-03)
    41 Suzuki GSX-600 FJ “Katana” (88)
    41 Suzuki GSX-600 FK/FL/FM “Katana” (89-91)
    41 Suzuki GSX-600F N/P/R/S/T/V/W/X/Y/K1/K2/K3/K4 “Katana” (92-04)
    41 Suzuki GSX-R600 WN/WP (92-93)
    41 Suzuki AN-650 K3-K4 (03-04)
    41 Suzuki SV-650 SX/SY/SK1/SK2 (99-02)
    41 Suzuki SV-650 S K3-K4 (03-04)
    41 Suzuki GSX-750 FK/FL/FM (89-91)
    41 Suzuki GSX-750F N/P/R/S/T/V/W/X/Y/K1/K2/K3/K4 “Katana” (92-04)
    41 Suzuki GSX-R750 G/H (86-87)
    41 Suzuki GSX-R750 M/N (91-92)
    41 Suzuki VL-800 K1-K4 “Intruder Volusia” (01-04)
    41 Suzuki VX-800 L/M/N/P (90-93)
    41 Suzuki VZ-800 V/W/X/Y/K1/K2/K3/K4 “Marauder” (97-04)
    41 Suzuki VZ-800 V/W/X/Y/K1/K2/K3/K4 “Marauder” (97-04)
    41 Suzuki GS-1100 GKZ/GK2/ GKD/GKE (82-84)
    41 Suzuki GSX-1100 FJ “Katana” (88)
    41 Suzuki GSX-1100 FK/FL/FM/FN/FP “Katana” (89-93)
    41 Suzuki GSX-R1100 G/H/J (86-88)
    41 Suzuki GSX-R1100 M/N (90-91)
    41 Suzuki GSX-R1100WP/WR (93-94)
    41 Suzuki GSX-R1100WP/WR (93-94)
    41 Suzuki GV-1200 GLF/GLF2/GLG “Madura” (85-86)
    41 Suzuki GV-1400 (85-89)
    41 Suzuki VS-1400GLP H/J (87-88)
    41 Suzuki VS-1400GLP L/M (90-91)
    41 Suzuki VS-1400GLP N/P/R/S/T/V/W/X/Y/K1/K2/K3/K4 “Intruder” (92-04)
    41 Suzuki VL-1500 W/X/Y/K1/K2/K3 (98-03)
    41 Yamaha YZ-125 W (89)
    41 Yamaha YZ-125 W (89)
    41 Yamaha YZ-125 A (90)
    41 Yamaha YZ-125 A (90)
    41 Yamaha WR-200 RD (92)
    41 Yamaha WR-200 RD (92)
    41 Yamaha YZ-250W/WRW (89)
    41 Yamaha YZ-250W/WRW (89)
    41 Yamaha YZ-250A/WRA (90)
    41 Yamaha YZ-250A/WRA (90)
    41 Yamaha YZ-250 WRN (89)
    41 Yamaha YZ-250 WRN (89)
    41 Yamaha YZ-250 WRW/WRA (89-90)
    41 Yamaha YZ-250 WRW/WRA (89-90)
    41 Yamaha XT-600 L/LC/N/NC/S/SC/T/TC/U/UC (84-88)
    41 Yamaha XT-600 W/WC/EA/EAC/EB/EBC (89-91)
    41 Yamaha XT-600 ED/EDC/EE/EEC/EF/EFC/EG/EGC (92-95)
    41 Yamaha YZF-600 RG (94-95)
    41 Yamaha YZF-600 RG (94-95)
    41 Yamaha YZF-600 RJ/RJC (97)
    41 Yamaha YZF-600 RJ/RJC (97)
    41 Yamaha YZF-600 RK/RKC/RL (98-99)
    41 Yamaha XVS-650 AK/AKC/AL/ALC/AM/AMC/AN/ANC/A/AP/APC/AR/ARC (98-03)
    41 Yamaha XVS-650 N/NCP/PC/R/RC (01-03)
    41 Yamaha XVS-650 ATR/ATRC (03)
    41 Yamaha XVS-65 AS (04) “Star Classic”
    41 Yamaha XVS-65 S (04) “Star Custom”
    41 Yamaha FZR-750RT/RU (87-88)
    41 Yamaha FZR-750RT/RU (87-88)
    41 Yamaha YZF-750 RF/RFC (94)
    41 Yamaha YZF-750 RF/RFC (94)
    41 Yamaha YZF-750 RH/RHC/RJ/RJC/RK/RKC (96-98)
    41 Yamaha YZF-750 RH/RHC/RJ/RJC/RK/RKC (96-98)
    41 Yamaha TDM-850 D/DC/E/EC (92-93)
    41 Yamaha FZR-1000 B/BC/D/DC/E/EC (91-93)
    41 Yamaha FZR-1000 B/BC/D/DC/E/EC (91-93)
    41 Yamaha FZR-1000 T/TC/U/UC (87-88)
    41 Yamaha FZR-1000 T/TC/U/UC (87-88)
    41 Yamaha YZF-1000 RK (98)
    41 Yamaha FJ-1100 L/LC/N/NC (84-85)
    41 Yamaha FJ-1100 L/LC/N/NC (84-85)
    41 Yamaha XVS-1100 AM/AMC/AN/ANC/AP/APC (00-02)
    41 Yamaha XVS-1100 M/MC/N/NC/P/PC/R/RC (00-03)
    41 Yamaha XVS-1100 R/RC/AR/ARC/ATR/ATRC/AWR/AWRC (03)
    41 Yamaha XVS-1100 S/SC/AS/ASC/ATS/ATSC (04)
    41 Yamaha FJ-1200 AD/ADC/AE/AEC (92-93)
    41 Yamaha FJ-1200 AD/ADC/AE/AEC (92-93)
    41 Yamaha FJ-1200 S/SC/T/TC/W/WC/A/AC (87-90)
    41 Yamaha FJ-1200 S/SC/T/TC/W/WC/A/AC (87-90)
    41 Yamaha XV17 PCP/PCPC (02) “Road Star Warrior”

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  18. Michelangelo

    Michelangelo 2 wheel rider...anytime..

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    Perhaps someone can enlighten me. But why do you need to use 41mm forks? Is it so they will slide directly into the SV's triple clamps?

    Are the SV's stock geomytry dirt worthy?
    Why not mod another dirtbikes triple clamps and forks to work on the SV frame? That's what I did with my Transalp-put some XR650R forks on her. Wasn't too hard.

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  19. elgato gordo

    elgato gordo KTMRFS

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    This looks like an interesting thread. Sure would like to hear if anyone out there has more info on making the SV more dirt friendly. The numbers for HP and weight look very attractive compared to the ever popular Ninja mods being done today.
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  20. B1

    B1 Carbon-based bipedal

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    great idea to compile info, pscyhsurf. this is a very late reply but i just picked up a pair of XT600 forks from an 80s model and there is no tapering, just 41mm the length of the stancheons. this will help as there is a fair bit of adjustment possible before the forks hit the handlebars. possibly the tapering forks are from a later model xt600? i heard they changed in the 1990s...

    these should be a great fit and just slide into the SV triple clamps so no messing around with steering locks, instrumentation etc.

    i'll need to confirm but it looks as though the stock SV650 axle will work in the XT forks which would be a bonus.

    there are various suzuki 1000cc front discs that are 320mm and will bolt on the SV hub, so all i'll need to do is grab one of those then a complete front brake caliper, brake line and lever etc and rig up a caliper adapter plate to space it correctly for the larger disc.

    the front should go up by three inches or so for extra clearance, which should balance out nicely will the 90s model ZXR rear shock which is an inch longer than the SV650 so should kick the rear up about the same amount. or just get a set of dog bones that will kick up the rear instead.

    at this stage will just fit a high profile front tyre to take it a bit closer to the diameter of a 19" front wheel. but i do have an old RM250 21 inch one lying around. this has the same 20mm axle as the SV650 so shouldn't be tricky to fit.

    and some preliminary measurements show a honda transalp rear wheel could be easily adapted (and i can get one for just $100). the only tricky bit looks to be the rear disc is too big for the SV650 but the transalp has the same disc bolt hole pattern as an XR400 rear disc which is 220mm like the SV. too easy!

    just thought i'd mention this in case anyone is looking at spoked wheels. if so, other 21" front wheels with a 20mm axle diameter are the WR250F, WR450F, YZ250F, YZ450F and early RM250s. all have the same bolt hole pattern and the cheap way to put a bigger disc on is the 310mm DRZ400SM front disc with the correct bolt hole pattern, and under $150 new on Fleabay.

    it would be interesting to get hold of a wrecked transalp actually. the forks would slide straight in, you'd still have twin discs up front....
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