Swags

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  1. Andrew2

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    I'm thinking of buying a swag for the OCR.I'll be taking a small tent also in case of bad weather.What's style of swag would be best and why.
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  2. LeglessOne

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    One's made of canvas are usually the best:lol3

    Want the mozzie sceen to go all the way to the bottom - so it's cooler in summer.Nothin worse than being warm already and having canvas over ya legs - my 2c

    I've got a DB Swag - had it for nearly 20 yrs - dunno if they are still about.I think they were one of the first swags that were fully enclosed - not the old envelope type.Cost me nearly $400 back then - has turned out to be great investment.:D
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  3. Dee Cee

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    Andrew I have been using a swag for many miles and many years and it rolls up as large as the average sleeping bag. It comprises of a good quality down sleeping bag (small and light), a three quater self inflating mat ,a blow up pillow and the swag itself is the lightest canvas available with a mossi net chucked in that you can hang up on a hot night if need be. Swags can be notoriously hot if you have to close them to hide from the bugs. The mat is proberly on the thin side for most people but it does keep the bulk down. I tried a cheap plastic tarp once but they tend to sweat on a cold night and are really noisy if you are having a restless night.:deal
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    My swag is the basic model about 15 years old, large piece of canvas folded over twice with verco straps. Its a bit big and bulky for the bike but possible normally use it for 4x4ing. The newer swags look a lot lighter fold up better and could pass for mini tents.
    http://www.rangercamping.com.au/Ranger_Swags/Down_Under_Swags/index.htm
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  5. mike cramb

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    Im after a small swag also my 20 year old darche is a bit big to carry on the bike. I want one that will use one of those self inflateing mattrees and roll up to fit on the back of the KTM.

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    Is there any pros and cons of different styles of swags,anything that I should avoid etc.The one I'm looking at is zipped down one side with a mozzie net and flap at the end and can be tied up to a tree or bike handlebar around the head area.It does'nt have the semi circle loop at the ends.
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    IMO if you're going that way i would get a small tent like the one ARB sells, its yellow tubed shape and takes about 2 seconds to erect, packs flat but about a metre in diameter. and a decent sleeping bag. i also like the Jumbuck which i think is more tent than swag http://www.rangercamping.com.au/Ranger_Swags/Down_Under_Swags/Jumbuck.htm but thinks a good s/bag would also be needed.
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    I'm a tent man too but I'm thinking putting the tent up and down everyday for 4-5 weeks is going to get monotonous,so am considering the simplicity of the swag.
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    I don't think that's going to be an option in the desert in the middle of winter though:vardy
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  10. davorallyfan

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    A plain swag might work for me - they all seem super bulky for bike travel (I'm happy to be convinced otherwise).

    My problem is claustraphobia. Its irrational, I suffer from it. I feel uneasy in the back seat of a car - near door is better than the middle. Those small coffin like tents, sarcoficus, speed humps don't help me at all. Out in the open is ok, or the minimum of a 3 person tent - zips only patially closed and a waxed sleeping bag zip is the go.

    Wasn't there a thing called a bikerz swag marketed once - oiled cotton thing?
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    Hey Biatch,
    you saw my swag (which is fairly big) on top of the rallye at albert.Wasn't too big - will look small on the PIG. Trust me:D
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  12. sharkey

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    Wot, like this?: [​IMG]

    You could try these: http://www.kidamanoilskins.com.au/swags.htm

    There's 'bivvy bags' for hikers, but they're not popular here and thus they're expensive. But at least they're very light. Those Hennesey Hammocks are pretty good but you need a couple of trees. I can't see the point of canvas swags on a bike ... by the time you tie the thing on securely enough, you might as well have pitched a tent!

    I'll probably be bringing the 3-man tunnel to Alpine just in case the weather is effing miserable ...

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    It's gotta be big to get you in it
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  14. FuddyLogic

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    Howdy Andrew,

    Nothing beats the look of a loaded bike with a swag across the back...

    I understand what you're saying about tents, the idea of putting up and packing up each day on the road becomes a hassle. Having said that, I carry a tent for extended wet weather, and privacy when at caravan parks etc.

    I've got 2 swags: 1 the simple envelope type, and the other is the hooped type with the mesh top, and rear window.

    Up north with the envelope type you have the choice between being as hot as hell in the swag, or being eaten alive by the mossies.

    The hooped type is more bulky, avoids the mossie problem, but can still get bloody hot.

    A swag's great cos all your bedding is in the one place, and you just simply roll it up and secure it across the bag seat. At camp the swag doubles as a seat.Travelling, your bedding stays dry, and the swag make a great backrest on the longer hauls. Ripping out the foam mattress, and using a thermo rest will reduce bulk, also using a good hiking sleeping bag, and a silk liner. (I used to carry a donna as I hate sleeping bags)

    If I travelled oz again, I'd take a simple envelope type swag, some mossie netting, and my hiking tent - all rolled up on the back seat

    Saw these at the camping shop the other day.
    Bivi Bag
    They were $$$, not as roomy as your typical swag, but would sure weigh a lot less. Might be worth a look...
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  15. FuddyLogic

    FuddyLogic Blue'n'Orange

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    Howdy Dave,

    There was a biker swag, was narrower than the standard, and packed up nicely...sorry not sure which brand.

    I get a bit claustraphobic in tents too, that's the other reason I love the swag
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  16. Lewy

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    Go and have a look at amart allsports in shellharbour. They have quite a few swags in there. I am looking at one in Nowra thats about $130 and seems to pack down fairly small.
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  17. oziexplorer

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    I used a swag for my 6 weeks half-lap od Australia back in 1991.
    Got stuck in Townsville with some wet weather while I waited for the shops to open so that I could put on new chain & sprockets.
    I used ocky straps (would use Andyz Strapz now though) to secure it - no problemo.
    There's something great about waking up in the middle of nowhere, rolling up your swag and taking off into the sunrise.
    I'll have a lok at the brand tonight - I bought mine from a queensland outfit who used a heavy-duty plastic base which was water and dust proof when rolled up, seam-sealed, and the swag was water-proof. I had a self-inflatring mattress rolled up in it, deflated. After a hard day in the saddle, it was easy to sleep. Every 6-7 days or so I treated myself to an overnight motel, mainly for privacy reaons I guess - whilst I was on the east coast.
    I have just received my Bibler Ahwahnee tent I purchased on fleabay - I will put it up on Monday - tomorrow is the big ride east of Perth with Pete & Steve :eek:)
    The tent weighes 3 kgs packed; it needs a compression sack I think - it's a bit bulky in it's orignal bag.
    For over-nighters, I would still be very tempted to use the swag. I'm also going to check out lightweight sleeping bags; bedding is one of the space-consuming items when travelling I have found, along with food/water supplies; I've bought an expensive tent, which I intend to use.
    Who knows - maybe after a squirt on Pete's R1200GS tomorrow it will sway me to a big-bore tourer [?]


    Cheers,
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    You used to carry a donna:babe

    Spose she would keep you warm:viking

    She wouldn't pack down as small as a sleeping bag tho:poser
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    Is that like that rock star Medoona:lol3

    She'd fold up pretty small though:rofl
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