SYM USA Warehouse Fire

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by tastroman, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. tastroman

    tastroman Long timer

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    Now that the Sym USA scooter warehouse has burned to the ground and the cause of the fire is arson, does Sym survive in the US market. From what I read, they were already struggling, working 4 day weeks. It would be a real shame to lose Sym as IMO, they are producing some of the most practical and reliable scooters on the market.
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  2. stiggs13

    stiggs13 Been here awhile

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    wow that sucks I had high hopes for the Honda Cub clone
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  3. Coopdway

    Coopdway Curiouser

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    and the Citycom 300i
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  4. redhandmoto

    redhandmoto Been here awhile

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    well, don't panic. when i first heard about this, i, too, had a moment of Citycomm 300i anxiety.

    then i recalled that sym of taiwan would still be making them, fire or not, and that carter bros had two? three? other warehouses.

    plus, at a dealer in my neighborhood, there's a-plenty of Symba cub clones settin', with no takers.
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  5. cyclebot

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    Sucks to hear. Could be karma for letting Steve from the scooterscoop go. The Honda club clone did look sweet though.
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  6. Tesla314

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    My dealer says he's still able to get parts from the Canada warehouse.

    He's not sure about getting restocked on the bikes themselves though.

    I bought his last black/white Symba this weekend. :augie
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  7. BurgerFriesDrink

    BurgerFriesDrink Been here awhile

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  8. Ragnar_Mike

    Ragnar_Mike Scooter Noob

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    Well now, that certainly affects my purchasing decision. I thought as much, JGS agreeing sways me. I like the HD200, but even before the fire I heard that getting parts from them in a reasonable time was mixed.
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  9. redhandmoto

    redhandmoto Been here awhile

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    Ho-leee crap...arson...I take back everything good I said earlier.

    arson...ya know, absent arrests & convictions it's best not to speculate

    This is just a damned shame...quality bikes at reasonable prices - wonder what other options SYM HQ in Taiwan has to participate in the US market, or if they even want to...
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  10. MHaz01

    MHaz01 I Used To Be Faster

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    Italian lightning?
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  11. wanna bECO

    wanna bECO Been here awhile

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    Ya know, If ya read my sig, you can tell that i am a passport fan. I just road my red one today. I had high hope for the symba, but have been weary about it from the start. I just didn't see it being marketed well enough. And it has no storage stock. and it was priced way higher that the passport, even adjusting for todays dollars. And it seemed like very few people knew about it. My harley buddy's knew nothing of this bike. And it needed to be made just a smidge bigger for us larger americans. I chatted with nate dahl about his on the passport yahoo group. His love affair with the bike is over. He hasn't riden it enough to test the long term reliability. He does comment about the taiwan market though and states that they are savvy shoppers and wo9uldn't buy crap, so the symba should be a great machine.

    I will find an unloved one in a garage one time and will bring it back to life.

    That dave Harrington is on top of things and if justgottascoot says don't buy one right now, don't do it. Dave has a strong love symba and owns a citicom 300 and states that it is the best scooter in the world for everyday use. I believe he paid his own cash for that, and not a gift. He also owns an hd200(if I am remembering right.) so, like I said. I would avoid sym for the moment. what a shame! :uhoh
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  12. Roose Hurro

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    No, I don't think it needs to be made bigger. If the Symba is too small for you, buy another bike, that's the solution. For me, 5'7" with a 30" inseam, the Symba is the perfect size. Bigger would also mean heavier, which would defeat both performance and efficiency.

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  13. wanna bECO

    wanna bECO Been here awhile

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    I don't know for sure, but I think 5'7" is not average american height. AND they are trying to sell them in america. Just makes more sense to make it a bit bigger. And really it's ergonomics not size, I doubt you could tell any weight difference or fuel economy.

    Ps.. wiki states the average height for a us man, white, is 5'10.5". And motorcycle riders are taller for sure. Scooter riders have huge sex organs too, which might make them taller too, :0)
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  14. tastroman

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    I see there's a bunch of citycom 300i sold without titles. Wonder what good those would be......This is really sad. I have not ridden a Sym before but they certainly look like they are well built and the reviews I've seen have always been very positive.

    Does not bode well for the current state of the scooter market in the US does it?

    Unless there's another gas shortage or significant price hike I don't see much hope of manufactures bringing their new models to US shores anytime soon. Our culture just isn't embracing scooters the way other markets have.
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  16. HBrew

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    I have a 2008 HD 200 with 5600 miles it is a great scooter.

    Don't confuse Carter Brothers with SYM. It doesn't look real good for Carter Brothers, but I am hoping they make it though this. I am sure there are a lot of good folks that worked there.

    As for SYM I hope they remain committed to the US market. If Carter Brothers doesn't pick SYM again, maybe the Canadian distributer will pick up the US market.

    I guess we will know in time.
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  17. tastroman

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    I would not worry too much if I was SYM owner. I currently own a Daelim and Isuzu, both of which have left the US market and I have been able to get parts without to much hassle. And I imagine SYM sold in much larger #'s than Daelim.
    I hate what is happening to the power sports market during this recession. Logic would say that scooter sales would be able to hold their own in a depressed economy.
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  18. techguy

    techguy Scooter Trash

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    Vehicle that have never been sold...don't a have a title. It just means you need to do your own DMV paperwork.
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  19. HBrew

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    My wife has an Isuzu and you are correct we have not had any problems getting parts and service.

    I would buy another SYM scooter without hesitation.
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  20. Circle Blue

    Circle Blue Here and There

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    I'm a happy owner of a SYM Symba. Like some others have said, SYM has a big enough presence around the world that I'm not worried in the long run about parts. It's the short term that is problematic. It's this funny in-between time we are in. Is SYM going to stay in the American market? If so, is Carter Bros going to be able to manage it? Or, is SYM fed up and looking for a new suitor? It's all the unknowns that I don't like. Oh well, I have nearly 4000 miles on my SYMBA and expect to put a lot more miles on my wee chariot.
    ~K
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