Tailgating

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by TeneRay, Mar 12, 2013.

  1. Warin

    Warin Retired

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    Err the electrical circuit may close before the brake is fully applied... but

    For an incandescent globe there is a thermal reaction time to build up the temperature of the filament.

    For a LED there is much less time from current flow to light output - thus you might get 0.2 seconds advance warning using LEDs .. if the following rider/driver is looking and awake...

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    Where would you rather have a fool? In front where you can keep and eye on them, or behind where they are not so well monitored?

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    There was a case in Western Australia. A semi trailer driver (you call them tractor trailers) was driving down one of our typical straight stretches of road. Decided to have a drink from a pop can. Drove straight in to the rear of a van. And killed the bicycle rider in front of that. The van had flashing lights and a large sign saying "Cyclist in front". The semi trailer drive said he did not see it.. probably too thirsty? Don't think he even saw jail time...
  2. randyo

    randyo Long timer

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    ½ second is generous, so many times in metro traffic cars are barely a car length apart @ 60mph or about 0.15 seconds and then they wonder why they got caught in a 150 car pileup
  3. Mr_Gone

    Mr_Gone Innocent culprit

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    Not true. I got hit by a June bug once, right in the throat. ABS didn't save me. That felt like getting hit by an asteroid. :D
  4. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    :lol3
  5. windmill

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    This is getting funny,

    The justifications some use for reducing their margins and options, humility is the most important safety formula.
  6. Offcamber

    Offcamber Long timer

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    Have to ride like everyone else is an idiot or crazy or both.

    Just yesterday in my car I'm in a 50 MPH zone...car in front of me is only doing 40. Can't pass as the road is curvy. Up behind me comes Mr idiot in a pickup....he's riding my ass.....what the hell riding my ass isn't going to make granny in front go any faster.....road straightens out with a passing zone....can't pass, cars are coming the other way. Once they clear there is just enough left of the passing zone to make a safe pass....I go around granny at about 60MPH....of course Mr Pickup follows....I get back in line just as the passing zone ends and here comes another pickup....Mr idiot decided he doesn't want to be behind me either and continues in the on coming lane to pass me....I could have been an ass and accelrated but whats the point....he makes it in front of me just in time to miss the on coming truck. Now here is the funny your a douche part...not 500 feet up the road he turns left to a side road....WTF why did you pass me for if you were gonna turn anyway:huh Gave him the salute as I went by....
  7. Wraith Rider

    Wraith Rider Banned

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    That's completely random. Why half and not one or three quarter? Why assume it will brake at all? And if an impact is oncoming, why should I wait with my own braking until the brake lights in front of me flash up?

    Doesn't really matter that much. I have mirrors. In general I tend to get away from both quite quickly.
  8. aka Yamadog

    aka Yamadog Adventurer

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  9. Griffin44

    Griffin44 Been here awhile

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    I was with you until I read this. Why in hell would you even consider accelerating??!! You really want to maybe kill the pickup driver, his passengers, the oncoming truck because you don't like the way the guy drives? Wow. I thinks you need to learn to chill. Or don't drive. One or the other.

    Reading Wraith's comments reminds me of an exhibit at the Science Centre here about 30 years ago. It was set up with a steering wheel, brake and gas pedals and two lights in front of you - one red, one green. When the green light was on, you applied gas. When the red lit up you hit the brakes as fast as you could. The resulting time was displayed. Almost NO ONE ever got below one second. Lots of young hot shots thought they'd have no problem. That exhibit was only dealing with reaction time - time to perceive and time to move foot. Even if you make the one second reaction you are still stuck with being one second behind in brake application. Oh well, another internet "discussion" where no opinions ever get alterred, regardless of how misguided.
  10. bumbeen

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    .7s is a very fast reaction time, and it doesn't include the loading of the front suspension that is required for maximum braking pressure. You're also not going to be prepared to do a max effort quick stop so dd another half a second to gauge the vehicles actual deceleration rate. By then it is too late, enjoy the bumper.
  11. Offcamber

    Offcamber Long timer

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    I didn't accelerate...I'm not out to kill anyone....I was "chilled" as you say, you missed what I' saying...if I wanted to be an asshole I could have accelerated.. I let the douche bag go....he was the one driving dangerously not me. I think you need to understand whats being said and judge a little less....
  12. Griffin44

    Griffin44 Been here awhile

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    Fair enough.
  13. Wraith Rider

    Wraith Rider Banned

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    They should've averaged ~0.8s, maybe there was something wrong.

    Easy workaround: Use both brakes.
  14. bumbeen

    bumbeen Banned

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    Are you on a cruiser or something? There's no workaround for loading weight on the front tire???
  15. Wraith Rider

    Wraith Rider Banned

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    It doesn't matter on what kind of bike you are. As long as the front isn't loaded, the rear is. It's not really a "workaround" but using both brakes to best effect.
  16. Mat

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    Besides, using the front brake leads to immediately laying her down, as is known.

    You guys really should not hand out dangerous advice such as using the front brake on a public forum.
  17. HooliKen

    HooliKen Awesome is a flavor

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    Or countersteering........................:huh
  18. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    I'm pretty sure he means 'accelerate to keep the idiot in the truck in the other lane or behind him' not 'accelerate to get around granny.'

    Its no one's job to be 'road police' or to 'teach someone a lesson.' Someone does something stupid? Let it go.

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  19. Matt 82

    Matt 82 Been here awhile

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    No-one's? :deal
  20. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    WTF drives by using just one foot?