Tank Guards

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by The Misinformant, Dec 25, 2005.

  1. Chrisbarnes1

    Chrisbarnes1 Been here awhile

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    And just one more pic as the reflections on the water were superb.

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  2. mars

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    chris just trying to keep this alive. i would like to get a set. also whats the chance of you making some fork protectors that will fit the 950 front end. i bet you would find more takers in the 950 area too.
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  3. Chrisbarnes1

    Chrisbarnes1 Been here awhile

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    I'm making progress (albeit slow in the cold winter)--The key to producing a few is a good mould--and I'm not going to take orders until I have produced a set or two , and I'm happy with the quality and reproducibility--of course you are welcome to a set once I'm able to lay up with confidence.

    On the 950 fork protectors I'm a little confused--do you mean a split carbon tube for the upper stanchion--to prevent chips from flying rocks etc (the standard low mudguard seems to do a good job for the exposed chrome on the slider?). Here in the the uk there are split carbon tubes available on the aftermarket to suit the motocross/enduro market--my local dealer will (I think) ship to the US--www.dirtbikebook.com--Gear4 ltd --www.gear4offroad.co.uk.
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  4. mars

    mars Starbucks anyone?

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    I want to remove my lower fender on my 05 model and install the upper fender like the 03 and older models. What I can not find are a set of lower fork protectors that fit. KTM makes a set that they use on the 65 sx that come close but the look small and one bolt hole does not line up.
    i bought a set and they dont fit very well. these are virtually the same forks that are on the 950 and I know that many of them would want to convert to a higher fender too.
    I disconnected one of my dual rotors and removed the wheel cylinder for it and I still have plenty of brake and a lot less unsprung weight.
    I think there would be a market for cf lower fork protectors and an upper fender too.
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  5. rob748

    rob748 resident alien !!!!

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    l would be up for some as well, my 05 already has some big scratchs on the one side but l want some better protection if l go down on the road (might do a track day on the 640)
    my father is coming over from england in April and august so we could use him as the courier or l we could use Fedex but it is $$.
    my 2 cents

    l used 85 sx guards and just put the hair dryer on the side piece and warmed them up to stretch them and they work OK but some CF would be nice
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  6. Chrisbarnes1

    Chrisbarnes1 Been here awhile

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    Sorry for the tardy response--haven't visited for a while--work is progressing slowly on the tank protectors --- the weather has been too cold for glass work etc.

    I do a bit of work for a local KTM dealer and will have a good look at fork leg lowers to see what's common. The 640 Adv and the 950 (and even the 990) have the same lowers. I note that the new 990 front fender (mudguard to me ) actually now uses the side bolt hole (previously just the front two--the fender used to vibrate)--This makes me think that the lower has a more traditional use where the bottom protectors typically use all 3 bolt holes--in other words the 640, 950/990 castings are not unique and there are probably stock protectors that fit.

    Regards, CB:clap :freaky :1drink
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  7. Loadedagain

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  8. Chrisbarnes1

    Chrisbarnes1 Been here awhile

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    I've found out a few things:
    1. Early 640 adventures with the high guard have a different lower casting arrangement so the early stock protectors won't fit the later bikes with bigger fork tube diameters.

    2. The latest 990 lower castings have a different hole spacing for the fender (compared to the 640)-they are closer together--haven't checked the 950 versus the 640 yet.

    3. I can't find any off road fork that has similar lower castings--so the 65 protector looks like the only one that's close (front two holes are parallel)--and I think this has already been discovered.

    In conclusion it looks like a "special" protector is required if you want to fit a high guard--even cutting down the current low fender wouldn't work if its the 2 bolt only mounting system--too flexible.

    Regards, CB:clap :freaky
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  9. mars

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    the 65 protector doesnt fit well at all. i have a set on mine right now. the front two holes are too wide but will work and the rear is not even close.
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  10. overlandr

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    Count me in for a set for an 03. What's the nominal thickness of these guards??
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  11. WageSlave

    WageSlave Been here awhile

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    I'm in for a set of guards for my '03 640ADV as well.
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  12. 1stworks

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    I would love to buy 3 set of tank guards for 03,05,06 640 adv.
    Please tell my how to pay and when i can have them.

    Thanks
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  13. Chrisbarnes1

    Chrisbarnes1 Been here awhile

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    Sorry guys for being absent for so long--haven't forgotten the guards--plug is prepped with 2mm wax sheet--just need to make the moulds. The LH gurd will extend below the petcock and they will cover the tank up to the vent hole and then blend rearwards at the bottom--keep the faith.

    ps I'm off to Romania in a couple of weeks--Dracula Rally--about a 3,500 mile round trip--4 days out, 4 days riding in the Carpathians (I think) and then 4 days back to the uk. About 70 Brit bikes are going.

    Just seen a 2006 Adventure--black frame and new tank graphics are the only changes that I can see--but a new 690 LC4 replacement is coming--with fuel injection and a trellis frame like the 950 SM--I guess there will be an adventure model as well.:clap
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  14. SpringOly

    SpringOly Old Swede

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    For some reason my 06 640 came with a bullseye located squarely on the left front and side of my tank. :umph It's pretty easy to spot - it says "Drop Here" encircled in red and white. In spite of throwing my body in front of my left-side-tipping-over bike to save yet another tank scrape (resulting in breaking of ribs, foot and wrist) the bike simply continues to go left and plop onto the tank at speed! Oh well - if I get these tank guards, I bet I'll never use 'em, cause that's how my life works. :lol3

    So please add my name to the list of people looking for some protection! :norton

    Thanks!
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  15. Surlyguy

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    Looks like I need some carbon bling for tank protection. So count me in for tank guards.

    Keep us posted. I'll be in London and Scotland in October so it might be easier then shipping mine to Canada.

    Ta

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  16. Chrisbarnes1

    Chrisbarnes1 Been here awhile

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    just had a burst of enthusiasm---sorry to keep you all waiting---just taken the first set of the mark 3s out of the moulds and fitted them--be warned silicon really sticks --the old ones were a real pain to remove and can even pull paint off if you dont "slice" carefully through the silicon with a "plastic" knife.

    brief description--two layers of carbon plus a chopped strand backing, poly resin, acrylic lacquered for finish--but they are a garage product and my vacuum bagging is not the best--so there is the odd blemish. The hole for the petcock is small and fiddly--but retains strength--I don't know how the carbon will take a direct hit in the petcock area--so can't guarantee that it will save you if you are really unlucky. Moulds were taken from a 2mm wax coated tank allowing for guard thickness--there are lots of curves so getting a super fit is damned difficult--plus if I totally enclosed the petcock you wouldn't be able to get the pipe off. Carbon can be trimmed easily with a Dremil type diamond wheel--so you can (with a round mini sander) open up the petcock hole as well as change the curves--but only take away carbon--I can't grow the moulds any more.

    Rough cost will be about $120---I've invested a lot of time and effort --and materials-- to get this far. Carbon is getting expensive--aero industry is gobbling it up. I can use other kevlar/carbon weaves etc if I can source it in small quantities. This is a personal quest, not a production line--so I can only get to it in the odd evening etc. I would prefer to make them on request and just ask for a small deposit to cover postage and a bit of material-- with the balance on receipt and satisfaction--otherwise returned at your cost--trust is paramount--I'm well aware that my quality is not up to the professional outfits standards-hence I wouldn't ask for full payment unless you are satisfied--but these guards will mask most scratches and can be replaced if you do it again!:clap

    I'll try and add a couple of pics and answer any questions.

    Chris
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  17. Chrisbarnes1

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    Next pic.

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  18. Chrisbarnes1

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    Next pic.
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  19. Chrisbarnes1

    Chrisbarnes1 Been here awhile

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    And one final pic.

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  20. Chrisbarnes1

    Chrisbarnes1 Been here awhile

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    I couldn't resist adding a couple of pics of me thrashing the old girl around Mallory Park racetrack on a track day this week--handled well, went well--but the Scorpions got very jelly like.

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