TAT here I come! - Solo Kiwi and KTM 690

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by vegemanNZ, Jul 26, 2017.

  1. TreblesAllRound

    TreblesAllRound Been here awhile

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    I can confirm that. I just came down from telluride in the snow mid afternoon, after doing ophir which is probably getting it too.

    It would be a big shame if I was the last TAT advrider to have been able to (sort of) do the cinnamon/California/hurricane/ophir combination. I think @vegemanNZ would do it much more justice . Still hope I can see your pics and thoughts of it.
  2. vegemanNZ

    vegemanNZ Been here awhile

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    Crazy morning and my ride up engineers pass was an adventure for sure! If you are watching my tracker you see that I made it to the top, but it was hard in the deep snow. The very last section of 50 metre or so was deep 8in and I kept losing traction. Id already dropped tire pressures on the way up, but was struggling to maintain momentum ...but being so close i wasnt giving up yet. I went back further and had another go. Nope. So i went back further again and had another go... and rode in my previous tracks. With legs flapping i got there... yay... got the photo... but that was only half the story. My bike stalled and would not start...bugger indeed.

    I'll write some more later... [​IMG]

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  3. Baggi'tard

    Baggi'tard Assventure rider

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    Glad you went up Engineer, a much prettier ride than Corkscrew. Wondering if the weather is supposed to warm up and maybe you can hit the rest of the passes in next couple of days?
  4. Kawikazi

    Kawikazi Been here awhile

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    I don't want to say I told you so, but I told you so.
    "Go west young man! Don't piss away too much time on the eastern TAT. Bypass all that shit mud in Oklahoma. Get your ass to New Mexico and make sure you get all of Colorado in during September. Also, plan an extra day to do the White Rim Trail in Moab, Utah."
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  5. Motor7

    Motor7 Been here awhile

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    I'm with Baggitard, that snow will be gone in a couple of days if not sooner. I used to backpack around Durango always in early October, ran into knee deep crossing the divide a few times, 2 days later it was 85 degrees and blazing sun. Chill, have some locally brewed beer and attack on another day. .............
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  6. vegemanNZ

    vegemanNZ Been here awhile

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    As you say the snow is only here for a couple of days, so am going to take a day and give it a chance to thaw out. Once the 4wd boys have been through, then its easier. I got back to lake city after meeting some people staying in the best cabin on the planet. I saw them on the way down, a friendly a question about the tracks, which then lead to a cuppa. Nice. after mucking around there for half an hour, i continued down to lake city again contemplating the bikes issue and stopped where is was warm and sunny, time for food and coffee. after 3 tacos and 3 coffees i thought i might as well do cinnamon pass as well. Its the easier one right?

    After Checking weather There was rain or snow coming in 90 minutes according to accuweather but it was also sunny.and..I'm sure 4wd riders have sorted the cinnamon track from the same dump that hit engineers - might as well saddle up...time to get it done.

    On getting to the top on cinnamon pass, we were all mostly correct. The 4wd had chopped most of the snow away to the classic brown, mud combo. It was snowing a tad earlier than predicted, but nothing to worry about, I got to the top of pass in just over an hour which was good. Interestingly though I thought the difference between the two saddles, felt similar in terrain as I didn't think the engineers was any harder than cinnamon....minus the snow. [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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  7. clintnz

    clintnz Trans-Global Chook Chaser

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    Great stuff! Really enjoying following your progress, keep up the good work. Best of luck in beating the weather over the rest of the high country.

    Cheers
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  8. vegemanNZ

    vegemanNZ Been here awhile

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    I hears ya, but I didn't Mess around. No mud, and covered some ground to get here. Can't help a wee snow shower, can't help a hurricane... plus, I wanted to do the tat. Come a long way, and it will be what it'll be...i really am having a ride of my life.

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  9. vegemanNZ

    vegemanNZ Been here awhile

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    Today, saw a fox running across the snow and caught a bull moose crossing a river, how cool is that. Having a hunters eye, I just caught a glimpse... wow,. I locked the wheels, jumped off, got my camera out... got it.

    A few minutes either side of that and I would have missed it... just goes to show that wether you make time or lose it... stuff happens. How lucky am I[​IMG]

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  10. MizzouRider

    MizzouRider Long timer

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    Great RR! Really glad you got to the top of Engineer and Cinnamon. A lesser rider would have bailed out. Excellent job.
    Thanks for posting. And, welcome to the U.S.
  11. victay

    victay Enthusiastic Noob

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    Hello from Christchurch.
    Been quietly following your posts from the start.
    Love having the regular updates and photos. Keep em coming please.


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  12. Kawikazi

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    You sir are a hell of a good rider to reach the summit of Engineers in snow. I feared your decent but must have gone OK. I have ridden the Alpine Loop several times in nice weather and once in the rain which made for slick conditions, but don't think I have the balls to do it in snow! Assuming your back in Lake City and planning to complete the loop, you will want to go back up Engineers or Cinnamon and make the decent into Animas Forks to check out the old mining town. Then up over California pass, left onto Hurricane pass and finish up on Corkscrew.
    That will put you out on Highway 550 about 12 miles south of Ouray. Don't miss visiting Ouray and perhaps spend a night. You can camp right down town at 4J's Campground or grab a nice room. My favorite hotel is Matterhorn, but Western Inn is the most economical option. Grab a burger at Maggie's Kitchen while your there. Next day you just head south on 550 maybe 20 miles to pick up Ophir pass. Highway 550 is the Million Dollar Highway which is one of those must do motorcycle rides. Could also check out Silverton and ride the cho cho before continuing west. Have fun. I am really enjoying your report.
  13. jon01

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    Wow, it's amazing the difference 2 weeks makes, we were just there and it was well into the 60's.
    Cinnamon is a fun one, as others have said, Ouray is a nice town check it out.
    Handlebars in Silverton had good grub when we were there and nice quality shirts.

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  14. vegemanNZ

    vegemanNZ Been here awhile

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    Makes me laugh to see that in sunshine... the weather forecast improves in the next couple of days so it could be back to what you had. I'll do some exploring ...and definitely go to ouray.

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  15. Motor7

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    Yep any direction on the compass is a good ride where you are.......day trips with no arrival pressure sure are relaxing....enjoy!
  16. vegemanNZ

    vegemanNZ Been here awhile

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    Thx for the praise, I've done a lot of off-road riding and its tones like that where it really pays off. Lots of throttle control on tbe way up and think i stood on tbe pegs the whole way up (fitness helps)....and Yes when I was coming down, it was definitely slick and tricky and if you were a off-road newbie...it would have been practically impossible to learn in. You already have to know how to ride, where to brake, when to brake. Be comfortable with the rear wanting to come around, know when to let the bike run ...but it's vey much about picking the line. Again its experience.

    A comment about tyres as well, I'm running a mitas E07 with 3000miles on it now and tkc80 front new 1000 miles ago. They aren't aggressive tires by any means and proves that which tire is best for the tat is subjective and personal. I know this combo, and to get the best out if them is about setting the air pressure. I run firm for high speed, and lowish in bad terrain and then even lower when I'm in the shit. The rear wheel has two rim locks, so it can power on with out spinning the tire on the rim itself...

    I did get my go pro to record the climb, so I will force my computer to trim the vid.

    Ps, I did spin out once going up and that's when I dropped air pressure some more...so I am fallible

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  17. vegemanNZ

    vegemanNZ Been here awhile

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    Oh...and thanks for the info around here most useful as I'm in bed here in Silverton thinking about the areas. Cold, mist with sunshine trying to break through[​IMG]

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  18. Thunder-dog

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    Viv, I assumed you did get into the snow when I saw your back track down from Engineers. Great effort making it to the top! I think very few riders could do what you did. So, what's up with your bike? just a one time issue?
  19. SOLOKLR

    SOLOKLR Back to work

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    Nothing looks as cool then slipping the back tire around coming down through snotty trails! Well done sir.
  20. vegemanNZ

    vegemanNZ Been here awhile

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    A combo of little things. Mainly my hand warmers were left on a lot, and because I had to replace my led main bulb back to a normal 55w halogen during this trip...i pushed it too hard. I also think my fuel map wasnt the best for it. It's the akra race map...

    I used my powerall jump back to get it going, so i could ride it further up the hill so I could crash start it later. I had to leave my seat and helmet at the pass, ride up, walk back. If you zoom in you can see the black objects on tbe track[​IMG]

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