TAT on a 250 from Ottawa in 2018 - wanna join?

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  1. Frankenbuffer

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    Aiming to take a month off from early Aug to early Sep 2018 to ride the TAT on my WR250R. One of those bucket-list adventures while the roads remain unpaved.

    Planning to ride from Ottawa to start of TAT, then ride as much of TAT as possible from East to West. Looking to spend more time in the Colorado/Western sections, so planning to travel/camp light and as fast as my 250 will allow before my butt/hands give up. Would consider shortcutting the first half to allow more time for the second half, since it's easier to come back and do the first half later. In theory it's possible to ride the whole thing in a month!

    Would love to have a ride partner or two, especially for the second half where's it's pretty remote. Haven't figured out the return route yet. Need to avoid interstates as my bike is too damn slow!

    Let me know if interested... planning is underway!
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  2. bigmo

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    I'm by no means a TAT expert, but I have ridden the majority of the TAT in spurts. There's nothing east of Arkansas worth spending time on. IMO, you'd be better off taking the express route to Memphis, TN and pick up the TAT in Arkansas just west of Memphis. Arkansas is superb. It will feed you to Oklahoma which is pretty dull, but starts to really improve as you get all the way to the west. Once you bust into New Mexico, you'll be in heaven - and it continues for the next 2500-3000 km.
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  3. rwebell

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    Great Blog @Frankenbuffer. While I can't take that much time off I look forward to hearing about the trip.
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  4. Frankenbuffer

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    Great, thanks for the beta!
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  5. Frankenbuffer

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    Thanks--me too! ;-)
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  6. bigmo

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    Popping in just west of Searcy, AR would be an ideal place to start your TAT adventure.

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewe...n&ll=35.60049522190213,-92.54661218749999&z=7

    You'll get a really nice couple of days of riding in before the bore of Oklahoma (it's all dirt, but straight and pretty dull). There are a couple of nice roads in OK to break up the monotony, but it's dull until Elkhart. After that, you get into some really nice areas of really remote agrivulture - but some sites worth seeing. Shortly after, the NM border arrives and it's a glorious section. After that, NOTHING is dull!

    I'd love to join you, but I am looking at Idaho and areas near Yellowstone this summer.
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  7. JT11

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    Hey, I'm interested! I was also planning for TAT or COBDR in August 2018.

    I don't think I'll have enough vacation time for the entire trail, so I'd be interested in skipping the Eastern parts (as "bigmo" suggested). I would plan to ship bike back to Ottawa from Vancouver, or to my in-laws place in Colorado so I can do COBDR/UTBDR in future years.
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  8. Frankenbuffer

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    Yeah, a full month is tough. Certainly interested in return shipping options or beelining it home in a rental truck. Would you consider riding through Pennsylvania section to Arkansa, i.e. on a more direct route?
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  9. Frankenbuffer

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    Did you follow the gpsKevin route or the official TAT route? I'm aiming for the latter since I've heard there are issues with the former (trespassing, etc.). I haven't bought Sam's official maps yet.
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  10. JT11

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    You mean Pennsylvania off road, or just slab all the way through? That is certainly an option. Rental truck down to Memphis would also be doable. We could start talking via email if we want to try and put a serious plan together.
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  11. Frankenbuffer

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    Another route idea: Ottawa to Arkansas via the Appalachians/backroads (more direct than TAT route), then TAT to Colorado, then north on the Continental Divide and back via Wyoming, Dakotas, then over the Great Lakes back home. This would leave the rest of the TAT as a second trip starting in Colorado, following TAT to Pacific, then down the coastal ranges and back to Colorado in a big loop. It may not be feasible to do the whole TAT in one shot, riding from Ottawa.
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  12. speedtrials

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    Hey y'all I've been PMing frankenbuffer about my interest in joining this for a little while. But here I am in the thread so you other guys know that I'm in too. I'm located in Toronto and also on a wr250r/x :thumbup.

    -Nick
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  13. Frankenbuffer

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    Looks like there's four of us mentally-questionable 250 riders willing to give this a shot. I'll arrange a meet-up at my workshop where we can swig beer, huff gas and rubber fumes, and debate the merits and options of this proposed misadventure-on-wheels.
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    is everyone on wr250r's or on what?
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  16. Frankenbuffer

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    not sure , if and how this might tie in to your planned adventure, but a couple of us are also planning on heading down to to the TAT on our drz about the same time. Our idea was to ride a week or so at a time over the next few years. Planning on trailering down to P.A.to begin to the closest connection point. One thought i had was for example if you had 5 guys along for the trip, alternating drivers each half day and bring the vehicle and trailer along with you. It should make the drive down and back easier.
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  18. Frankenbuffer

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    Thanks for the suggestion! My preference is to ride from home since it's the journey, not the destination that I'm looking for (although I've been fantasizing about riding in the Rockies for years). So I'm unlikely to trailer anywhere, but could meet up with others who do. Might reconsider trailering for another year, e.g. to do the loop from Colorado to end of TAT, then either south and back through the desert, or north and back along the Great Divide. So many ideas, so little time--I'm on Freedom 95 unfortunately!
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  19. kaspilo

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    Hello Frankenbuffer! I live in western Arkansas, about 8 miles (12 km) south of the TAT, in Alma, a little town near the I40 and Rt 71 intersection.

    As you probably know, there are two somewhat different road maps of the TAT, one by Sam Carrera (scrolling paper) and the other KevinTAT (digital GPS downloadable version). The gpsKevin TAT has two routes, EZ TAT and the "regular TAT" . The regular TAT I believe follows closely Sam Carrera's routing. I prefer to use gpsKevin's TAT, it is much easier, but that's a personal preference.

    https://sites.google.com/site/gpskevin/adventurerides/.../download-the-tat-gps-maps

    Arkansas' TAT is beautiful, but once you get a few miles west of the Arkansas-Oklahoma line gets pretty boring. I have trailered from home to Albuquerque, NM to ride the west portion of the TAT and the continental divide roads... it is beautiful.

    I'm willing to ride with you for a few days as long as you are NOT a "Rocket rider" and you are willing to take frequent stops to smell and water the flowers. I ride a BMW f650gs twin and for most is a pretty good bike for those roads, not too heavy and pretty comfortable. If by any reason we cannot ride together at the very least I will help you locate inexpensive motels or campsite around this area and near-by to the TAT to facilitate your travel/adventure.

    Good luck in your planning. Send me PM's to share personal information.
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  20. Frankenbuffer

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    That's awesome! Thanks! I've been comparing Sam vs. Kevin maps. Main concern about Kevin's is sounds like some segments cross private land and that has caused problems for some riders.

    I'm def not a rocket rider on a 250! You can see what stuff I have gotten up to on my blog, http://dualsportdiary.blogspot.ca.

    Will be trip-planning over winter and will be in touch.

    Cheers!
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