TAT Sept 2017 'Fly and Drive' on 250 Rally - RR

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by TreblesAllRound, Sep 3, 2017.

  1. vegemanNZ

    vegemanNZ Been here awhile

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    oh man...that's not a good place to park it. I'm guessing the fact that you are hanging out with one of the inmates is a good sign the, you are alright yes (besides the damage to your mojo)...It's good that you got it out as well. Interesting that you crashed it going up? Too quick into a corner?
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  2. waybill

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    Marshall is the easiest of the passes but it's got water bars (humps) that can hide in the shadows and if your attention was diverted could cause a problem. Also Mt. Ouray had snow on it today so it coulda been slippery this morning. We were on Marshall Friday and saw these guys, someone had put a salt lick in the road.

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  3. TreblesAllRound

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    Thanks all, I've been well taken care of this evening by 68vette. The bike has come out remarkably well from what I can tell. Rode another 120 miles after that and didn't notice any problems. Just small scratches to plastic and a snapped RAM ball holder. I'm fine too, as you say just knocked confidence a bit, but I got straight back on and rode it - the only way to fix that.

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    I was going up fine at a good pace until it happened in a bit of a flash. I think a big rock threw my front wheel off course towards the edge. I think I was I was stood up and my weight got knocked back which caused me to throttle off the edge. Still thinking it all through. It seems to be against advice but I don't think it would have happened if I was sat down.
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  4. TreblesAllRound

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    That's a bit worrying. Having said that I was finding it fine until the accident and did the rest of it without any difficulty.

    Going to have a short 75 mile day tomorrow including cinnamon pass.

    By the way thanks for the offer of help and a place to stay, much appreciated. I may need it yet!
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  5. TreblesAllRound

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    Thanks, have the option of ophit tomorrow. I'll see how I feel.
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  6. waybill

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    No problem, got you covered if need be. Cinnamon is the toughest (rockiest) and Ophir has gotten a little rockier in recent years although shouldn't be a worry on the 250.

    A much easier and maybe as scenic route would be to go east on 50 from Montrose, take P77 south (I think also called Little Cimarron) then it runs into Big Cimarron, continue south past Silver Jack Reservoir and turn right on 858 over Owl Creek Pass to Ridgeway. Then take hwy 62 west out of Ridgeway over Dallas Divide then left on Last Dollar Rd. Once you're on Last Dollar for awhile veer left on 638 (still Last Dollar) it'll come out by the Telluride airport. From there you can pick up the TAT where Ophir Pass rd. T's into hwy 145.

    Several years ago Sam rerouted the TAT over Marshall Pass instead of the old Hancock Pass route because it's become almost unrideable on a big bike and challenging on a small one, nasty rocky. Cinnamon and Ophir (to a lesser degree) are also slowly deteriorating due to all the OHV traffic in recent years. Not as bad as Hancock but it's likely a matter of time.

    Sort of a double edged sword though because once you're over Cinnamon to Animas Forks the ride over California, Hurricane, and Corkscew Passes to Ironton (not really a place) is spectacular and probably worth the effort. If you do plan on Cinnamon from Lake City there's a nice dirt shortcut from 50 going east to 149 that comes out a lttle north of Lake City, called Alpine Plateau Rd, shouldn't take much longer than going around on the pave.

    Sorry you'll miss the Doyleville cutoff west of Sargents and Los Pinos pass, the old stage route to Lake City, they're both fast scenic roads, maybe next time..

    Here's my number if you want to get in touch during the day, there's no cell service right at the rv park. 90465503six5
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  7. 68vette

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    He hit the road around 8:30
    Enjoyed your visit
    Safe travels
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  8. Critic

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    Bill is right in what he says! It is a good option; but doing the actual route should be fine, just take your time and enjoy it. Keep you tire pressure low for control and traction. This is one big advantage most people WILL NOT do. Think what a highly inflated basket ball does on hard surface; then one with under inflation does. Do you want to bounce off rocks and ruts or absorb them kind of thing. By the way, I just got a cast put on my right leg today. I ran 2 lbs. more pressure than usual on an DS/enduro route Saturday! It was not the total reason but, it did add to it. I am talking 10lbs. rather than 8!!! Hard tires and/or hard side walls add to this. I see so many people using tires like Heidenau, which is a street tire that looks like a dirt tire. It is all about what the RIDER thinks dirt is ... dirt, rock, gravel, red soil, smooth, ruff ...
    Just keep it safe and make it fun!
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  9. TreblesAllRound

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    I've just got to Ouray. The most amazing and scariest day on a bike ive ever had.

    Montrose to Gunnison on tarmac was cold and slow but fine. Gunnison to lake city on tat was fine. Started cinnamon at 1415. Cinnamon was hard but good. At this point it was already most exhilarating day I've done on a bike with fantastic scenery and autumn leaves.

    Then did engineer. Getting to top was a bit scary as there was snow on small part of the track, but a clear way through. As started to come down over side there was more snow. Dropped bike multiple times on way down. Wheels sliding on snow with drop offs. Had to keep stopping to rest. Was around 1730 at this stage. The realised had missed the turning to ironton around 0.5 mile ago.

    Nearly got the bike back to the turning but on last steep incline was snowy and even at full throttle the rally stalled and fell.

    It was now around 1820 I think. Not seen anyone else for probably hour and half. Sun just going down over the ridge and temps dropping. Decision was made this was now about survival. Unloaded sleeping bag/tent/survival blankets/fire lighter/nav devices/spare batteries/food/water/headtorch/etc off bike and started walking out following Inreach and nav phone. First mile or so was uphill. At 12ft carrying gear that tiring. Fortunatley downhill after that for a few miles.

    A mile or so from ironton managed to signal a jeep in dusk with phone torch. They came back up track to pick me up.

    Jeep only had two seats so I was squashed in back with all their gear. To top it off when we got down to silver town, there was another biker sans bike by side of road trying to get to Ouray. His bike had gone off an edge only recoverable by helicopter he reckoned. So there were then two of us squashed into back of jeep cramping up for windy trip along the million dollar highway to Ouray from silver town. I was sat on a plastic bucket with a rock in it, my head bent over with the back my neck on the roof. At this point got text message from waybill saying once got to top of cinnamon it was all plain sailing! I can see how it would be without snow, but now...

    The rally is spending the night at 12k feet between engineer and hurricane pass. Have got the name of a recovery company to call in the morning. If any criminals are reading this, there is a bike up there for you, if fancy going up to get it.

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    That's the gist of everything with lots of details missing. I need to eat and be thankful I'm still alive.

    Unless you are very skilled I think engineer is closed for this year.
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  10. waybill

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    Damn bro, I've been waiting for today's report, glad you got down but as you know Engineer isn't on the route.. Just thankful you found that Jeeper and he got you to Silverton, walking out would not have been good! I did something similar about 5 years ago, rode to the top of Engineer in late Sept on a DRZ and wanted to get to Cinnamon, there was so much snow I couldn't get up the hill so had to turn back to Lake City, the Scottish Highlands it ain't : )

    I doubt anyone will take the bike, more likely the authorities will be looking for the owner before you can get up to retrieve it. Is it on the east or west side of the pass, I think that's where the county line is if you want to contact someone and let em know about it, looks like Hinsdale (east) or Ouray County (west) depending. Get some rest you still have to get to Animas Forks (where all the roads converge--old buildings, what you're likely calling Ironton) and do California, Hurricane, and Corkscrew Passes, best part of the ride. If someone takes your bike I've got one you can finish the ride on, no worries..
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  11. Corona

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    Wow, was on the TAT doing this routes just three weeks ago. Glad to hear your OK. Just be jealous of the view of the sunrise the bike will be getting the next day :)
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  12. TreblesAllRound

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    Ok, I think I've mixed up a pass name above. Not engineer. I was definitely on TAT route. I walked to top of hurricane on way out, so that means bike is between California and hurricane.

    The police station and Ouray liquor store (the only place open at this time of night, but juat what I wanted) recommended Steve at Timber ridge services in Ouray. I will call him first thing.

    When you were talking about contacting some one at a county, did you mean the police?
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  13. TreblesAllRound

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    Haha
    I have some good pics of sunset from top of hurricane. Not something I intended taking. Need to get some sleep now.

    Thanks for the support everyone.
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  14. waybill

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    Ok if you were on route it probably is between Calif and Hurricane, there's a lake off to the right, Lake Como.

    Yes, wouldn't hurt to call the sheriff's office and let em know what happened, they'll probably be getting calls about it in the morning. Ask someone which county that is, I think it's SanJuan but not sure, one of the Jeep rental places will likely know.
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    Holy cow! Glad you got down safely; that's most critical, of course. Wishing you a good bike recovery today!
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    What an adventure!
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  18. TreblesAllRound

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    Got back down with the bike with a lot of help from people (in the end a passing pick up hummer brought the bike down). In silver town tonight.

    Must have had help from 15 people in the last 24 hrs that has potentially saved my life and my bike. So much has happened on the last 24 hours... I just need to come to my senses a bit and will then write up a bit more and add pics this evening.
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  19. Scheffy

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    Never seems to be any shortage of excitement on those passes... Well even if some of the passes are ruled out, you're still only a few days away from Moab which may be more to your liking weather-wise. Maybe a good place for a little R&R as well. Let me know if there's anything you think you'll need out of those boxes you sent and I'll be happy to ship them out to somewhere you can pick them up.
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  20. vegemanNZ

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    Don't be hard on your self too, you are still new at this stuff and being good off road takes hundreds of hours. You are unfortunately learning on the job and putting yourself in tough conditions. Good that you got out for now. It was always going to be an adventure you... Am pleased you are ok

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