Taurus Revolvers. Good? Bad? Ugly?

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  1. VegasKLRider

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    Older ones had lousy heat treating and the internals wore out way too quickly. Modern ones (post 2000) seem to hold up pretty well.
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  2. rocker59

    rocker59 diplomatico di moto

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    Ruger SP101 in .357

    You don't have to shoot .357, since it will shoot .38 Special as well.

    Having options is good.

    No way I'd buy a .38 when the same gun is available in .357/.38

    The SP101 is a nice option in the small frame revolvers.
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  3. FPGT72

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    I have played with one of these, they are light and the funny thing is they shoot out of the bottom. They do not seem as sharp as a "normal" 38 snubbie...and I think that is because the gun does shoot out the bottom and not the top. It was not mine, but in the stories I have read about chiappa in general, and personal experence with their 22 1911 I would want to do lots of home work before I picked one up.

    As to the judge/gubnator guns...it is all a gimick....have any of you ever shot one of those thing....I did once and that was enough...not fun. The are big, heavy, big, hard to shoot, big, loud...oh did I say big....if I was to do that I would carry a full sized 1911 or a 92f...both are about as easy to hide as a judge....heck I think you could hide a bazooka with more ease.

    As to the 410 being a defence round, Eh.....I carry a 32acp and do not feel that my dick is any smaller than those that say you have to carry a gun that startw with a .4 If you think anything is not up to being a "defence" load tie your gun to a tree rig up a string and shoot yourself with it....then get back to me....I am so fucking sick and tired of this bullshit.



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  4. Mambo Dave

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    First, http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1914670

    That they aren't made anymore, according to one source I read, would suggest that they couldn't make them correctly in the first place.

    Taurus was a crappy gun company that became an 'iffy' gun company when they began making some of their models to work reliably. One that is of interest to me, but not a CCW piece for most, would be their Glock copy that is called the 24/7 I think. Anyway...

    I carry a S&W 642 AIrweight a whole helluva a lot more than I ever carried my blocky, and heavier, Glock 23. In fact, I used to carry the Glock up in a colder state where I usually had more clothes to conceal it with, but it just isn't a great CCW weapon for anyone who isn't overweight. Now down here in Florida the 642 isn't sexy or anything, and it's a bear to practice shoot, but it's the perfect lightweight companion to carry in so many situations.

    I think I bought my 642 from a reasonable gun dealer, new, for only $340. So this choice to go Taurus can't be about price...

    re: .357 ... great in a police gun, but +P .38 is beyond 'snappy' and uncomfortable after 60 rounds in an Airweight as it is... I understand the desire to pack a punch, but it's not like an owner of either a .357 or .38 Airweight is going to enjoy shooting their pistol. They just aren't enjoyable, IMHO - they're what you buy to carry.
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  5. JamesG

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    It's not just the barrel/firing cylinder orientation. The grip is also "choked up" higher than a traditional revolver to put the recoil impulse more in line with the wrist and arms.

    It's Italian. :wink: I would like to get one if my gunz budget could afford it. A bit more "practical" than a Mateba.



    Of course. It's marketing. Insecure people want to have a big heavy gun to make themselves feel safe.
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  6. RED CAT

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    I agree. Pickup a nice used Ruger SP101. Compact, stainless and robust with the .357 option at no extra charge. A quality piece. Shot 1000s of rounds out of mine before I sold it to a good buddy who still loves it.
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  7. liquidsmile

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    Of course. It's marketing. Insecure people want to have a big heavy gun to make themselves feel safe.[/QUOTE]

    The judge is a gimmick, :lol3

    Seriously, it is one of the best close range guns out there. It is not a gun to take to the range and punch paper with, but to call it a gimmick is a reach. With the right shells, it is about the most deadly handgun you can have within 5 yards of your target you can buy. I keep it in my bedroom for my fiance who would have a hard time using my shotgun.

    Here is an interesting video, a bit long winded, but he goes through about every type of shot for the judge. I am running the Winchester PDX1 loads in mine.

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  8. 00SS

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    ^this^
    I have a 605 Poly and just experienced the tightness between the cylinder and frame as well (First time). I was having trouble finding rounds in .357 HP's but the range i went to had some "Independence" 158/jsp under the counter, not only did they have issues they were hot loads and left my hand ringing after only about 20 rds. This was the first time i've ever had issues with the gun.

    Now to original point, i love that little gun, very light and easy to CC and for a 2" barrel it's very accurate (surprising for anyone who shot it). I have also owned numerous Taurus handguns and have found them to be very reliable and easy to clean/maintain. I have a PT92 i bought new back in 1989 and 23 years later it's still one of the best 9s i have.

    oh and a pic of the .357 just because :evil
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  9. FPGT72

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    I do not disagree that it is effective.....where I do disagree is that anyone would carry the thing. I am not a fan of leaving anything in your car, or having it in a bag and not on your person. It is just flat ass too big to carry.

    But I do agree that if there was a home invasion there are few other weapons that would be as handy as a shotgun pistol and that goes double true for folks that are not well versed in guns in general....that is one thing a revolver brings to the table, pull the trigger and it goes bang....if it does not go bang keep pulling till it does.

    The judge is a gimmick, :lol3

    Seriously, it is one of the best close range guns out there. It is not a gun to take to the range and punch paper with, but to call it a gimmick is a reach. With the right shells, it is about the most deadly handgun you can have within 5 yards of your target you can buy. I keep it in my bedroom for my fiance who would have a hard time using my shotgun.

    Here is an interesting video, a bit long winded, but he goes through about every type of shot for the judge. I am running the Winchester PDX1 loads in mine.

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  10. broncobowsher

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    We are getting off the small caliber subject the OP was after.

    But as for the Judge, particurally the Raging Judge, yes they are big massive guns. they are NOT a pratical choice to carry around. If you want something to holster and wear, get a properly sized gun. But there is value in the Judge. It is fun to shoot. Go out with some friends and we all love shooting the Judge. So what is wrong with that? Does every gun have to be small and conceable? I have other options for that. Some people want an enjoyable gun more then one that will fit up there ass crack comfortably. To each there own.

    Now for the smaller caliber/smaller frame versions. Reading the above posts and filtering through them it sounds like you should be good with the newer (post y2k?) quality.
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  11. FPGT72

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    Like I said in my story, my tarus 38 is around 20 years old or so, and it is still smooth, and problem free.

    It is actually the only taurus that I own....not because of any fault of its own, it falls into the pure utility catagory....I am already covered in that area, so the stuff I tend to talk about is the more odd ball stuff.
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  12. Meter Man

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    I don't get the attraction of the Judge.

    I would get some kind of .357 revolver, you could then, depending on your preference, load with .357 or .38 special.

    Find a shooting range local to you, rent 4 or 5 different revolvers and find the one you like the best. Trigger pull, grip size/shape, etc will often be the deciding factor.
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  13. rocker59

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    Me, either. If I'm going to have a heavy gun, it's going to have a barrel on it so I can hit something at more than 15-feet!
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  14. dbg326

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    I definitely came to the same conclusion regarding the Judge pretty quickly, so no it's not really in consideration as far as a carry gun. It was intriguing at first, because of it's ability to get a decent amount of lead on target at close range, but it is way too big, especially seeing as how I've got a pretty slender build. Chances are, I'll pick one up down the road, just to mess around with, but for now, practicality is taking precedence.

    Conclusions so far seem to be that while the .357's ability to fire 2 calibers is nice, the performance difference isn't drastically different from a .38 Special (out of a 2-3in barrel). Modern Taurus' seem to be better made than previous models (definitely with exceptions). And that a used S&W/Ruger/Colt in decent shape for the same price is arguably a better bet.
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  15. liquidsmile

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  16. rocker59

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    Yeah. Me, too.

    But, the thing a .38/.357 revolver has going for it is that it's chambered for two of the most widely available rounds out there.
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  17. kobudo28

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    S&W Model 60, J-frame, SS .38/.357 revolver. I have no problem shooting it with .357 loads and it is the gun I carry in harsh environments, hiking, kayaking, fishing, etc. I like the ability to shoot either round out of it. It is a solid, reliable gun. It is heavier that some of S&W light weights but it makes it easier to shoot with .357 loads.

    My experience with the early Taurus revolvers is pretty much in-line with what others have posted, pretty much crap. I don't know if the newer guns are better.
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  18. timsgs

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    Model 66 .357/4" barrel owner here, had it over 20 years and not one problem. Is it the best out there? NO, but it's a tool that gets it done when needed.
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  19. Meter Man

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    The most important part of self defense is being able to hit the target. Some folks cannot shoot well with a hot .357 load in a J frame or other small revolver.

    The OP can rent 5 or 6 .357 carry revolvers and determine which he likes best. He then has the choice of loading dozens of different loads of .38/.357.

    I can't hit a think with the .38 LCR, but can shoot well with the SP101 loaded with .357.
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  20. jesionowski

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    Bought one of those 7 round light weight 38 specials, forget the exact model. Paid a little over $400 sold it for $200. I bought it for what I thought was revolver reliability. Piece if crap. Would jam after the first one or two shots. I have a Glock 19, less moving parts, more rounds and easier to clear a jam.
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