TE450 Adventure Machine?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by geomeo, Nov 17, 2012.

  1. Adv Grifter

    Adv Grifter on the road o'dreams

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    You don't need two bikes ... just one that is suited for what you think you want to do. Snow riding on ANY bike is pretty much impossible without studded tires or a Sno-track conversion. So forget that. You can maybe go in up to a 6 inches or a foot ... much deeper can get tough.

    As mentioned earlier ... something like the DRZ400S is a good compromise. Or ... take my choice: Suzuki DR650, the old tech wonder. :deal

    Most posters here talked about the horrendous vibes and short gearing of the Husky ... but for TRAVEL ... there are OTHER considerations.. What about luggage. And comfort?

    Go try and put on 200 lbs. (your figure) on any TE Husky or KTM. Or did you mean 200 lbs. ... including rider? :ear Both the DR650 and DRZ can handle a fair load and many aftermarket seats are offered.

    The DR650 (with a good seat!) can maintain 80 mph all day long in relative Low Vibe comfort. I've done many 400 mile days, back to back to back. I've cut down on my luggage, now only haul about 65 lbs. on the bike. (clothes, tools, parts, tubes, spare tire, food, water) Add 12 lbs. for camping gear, which I sometimes carry. With a light load it's not bad off road. No Husky ... but I'm not riding Enduros ... I'm traveling ... mostly on paved or dirt roads or easy two track or Desert Pistes. DR is good in all.

    Both Suzuki's can handle this sort of duty and typically will go over 50,000 miles trouble free, with very low maintenance. Not Race Bikes! :lol3

    I've ridden the TE450 in the Mojave Desert. I loved it, but would never try to do long distance on one. A TE450 riding friend rode along with me on a two day Dual Sport event in NorCal ... at day's end he was hammered. Dead exhausted. I went to the bar! :lol3

    Sure, he was faster in the mud, rocky technical sections of the ride ... but I'd pass him on fast pavement or at gas stops ... I have 230 mile range. :DHe could go about 100 miles.

    Bottom Line:
    Horses For Courses! :dhorse
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  2. NorCalslowpoke

    NorCalslowpoke Long timer

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    I've got a 2007 510

    Echoing almost all of the comments.

    I originally purchased it as a light plated bike for dual sport riding. It matches this well...but...every modification I've made has been to tame it to be more like a DRZ400, but with more power.

    The gearing: As stated, sucks for actual adv riding. If they only made the 6th gear way tall, it would be fine. Leave the 1st 5 gears narrow, they work great in the dirt. In most cases there are 2 gear options due to the narrow spacing. You could carry a larger front sprocket and change for the particular days riding. I geared it way tall for a week+ long baja trip, worked fine for most of it, but 1st was too high for some of it.

    Vibes: No counter balancer. It is more vibey than I would like...but...as I have posted prior...3 things have helped: Vibranators in the bars (tons of help), Progrip 714 grips and...when I had the head/piston off I lowered the compression a tad by having the piston shaved 30 thou (per a Scott Summers article). Not as smooth as a DRZ etc, but now it is tolerable.

    Seat, stock one sucks for adv will have to be changed.

    So...as a very light duty adv bike...maybe...better if you are trailering and then doing long dirt loops that require a plate.

    I've also had overheating (now fixed), suspension, and clutch issues over the years. Maybe the newer ones are better.

    Check out the 610's...
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  3. bobnoxious67

    bobnoxious67 Baby steps...

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    Of course Husky can market it as a dual sport...it's a street legal bike that can be ridden in the dirt (well, more like a dirt bike that can be ridden on the street).

    An auto clutch and 15/52 gearing (1 tooth higher than stock 13/47) have helped bridge the woods/street gap, but it's still a dirt bike with a lot of compression, no counterbalancer, and no cush drive.

    A 610 will do what you want:deal
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  4. buls4evr

    buls4evr No Marks....

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    And no one has mentioned the horrible fuel mileage that they get:eek1..... Unplug that thing and it consumes gas like a 2 stroke! You heed a safari tank to go as far as a Dizzer goes on the 2.5 tank. That is a real failure.
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  5. barnyard

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    Actually, for a race bike, I thought it got pretty good mileage. With the stock tank, I could easily do 80-90 miles of really, tight, twisty, single track. I never really paid that close attention because I never came close to running out of gas on it.
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  6. buls4evr

    buls4evr No Marks....

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    Guy I rode with in NM had a 510 with a 3 gal tank and could do only 110 miles to dry! Do the math.... That is lousy compared to what everyone else was riding. Under 40 mpg compared to Jap bikes in mid 50s and up.
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  7. VxZeroKnots

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    Sounds like a poor tune. Mine gets around 30-35mpg when being screamed WFO all day on single track. With road work or double track I get much better mileage, well above 40...

    When I first started messing with tuningI ran out of gas a couple times because the fuel mileage was in the low 20's if not teens from poor settings.

    Now I'm in the low 30's again for trail work, don't ride much DS stuff with it anymore.

    The small bore TE platform makes a bad dual sport, IMHO, because of the transmission; the spacing is too close. Compared to an LC4 the engine is smooth as glass, and the subframe on them is pretty substantial, much more beefy than anything on a KTM.

    They also have about the same oil capacity as a DRZ so no worries there.
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  8. TrailPunter

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    The true beauty of the TE250/450/510 is that they are real live dirt bikes that just happen to have a plate. And they are great at being just that. Every one that has ridden my 250 loves it. Even the guys that bleed Orange. Here in Southern California in the name of crowd control we have dirt roads that are labeled as city streets, country roads, and even a couple of state highways. Look at the OHV maps for any of the local SoCal riding areas. Gorman, Rowler, Big Bear, Anza/Idyllwild, Corral Canyon, McCain Valley, and even Anza Borrego. You will see sections of dirt road that say "Only street legal vehicles allowed" Connecting trails legally has opened up huge numbers of possible rides, and I'm very happy with my 250's ability to do this. Yes, the gearing sucks on the road. However it's really nice to go to a place like Big Bear or Mammoth and be able to explore the whole area without having to truck the bike from trail to trail. Oh, and I get between 50 and 60 mpg with the JD jetting kit.
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  9. geomeo

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    thank you sanjo

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  10. geomeo

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    thank you Sam

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  11. geomeo

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    Thank you... I agree..

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  12. geomeo

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    Thank you.. I agree..
    Hence will use the TE450 with timbersled for snow and early BMW for road/gravel.

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  13. geomeo

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    Thank you Scott.
    The TE has a narrow application.
    I will use an early BMW for the adv requirement.

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  14. geomeo

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    Thank you Jake. Good reminder on the JD kit.

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  15. Tork

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    Just sold a 2006 F650GS and wanted to get a bike for single track that is street
    Legal , thought the husky TE450/511 was a possible match but the above comments scare me .

    I have a R1200GS For ADV Riding but what does one recommend as a single
    Track weapon with some street miles to get to the dirt ?
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  16. jessepitt

    jessepitt Ride More

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    ktm 450/530 exc.
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  17. Tork

    Tork Pinsetter

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    KTM Has always confused me , what does the exc designate ?
    And what years should I look for ?
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  18. jessepitt

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    Dunno what the EXC stands for but it is the designation given to thier plated dirt bikes. Wide ratio six speed and good suspension. I think the 530 came out in '08.
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  19. Tork

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    Thanks for the info .
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  20. bobnoxious67

    bobnoxious67 Baby steps...

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    Don't get scared off yet...how many street miles? I have an '09 with 7000 miles on it that has a true 50/50 mix of miles on it...in a 60 mile day I have to travel 25-30 miles of pavement. I change the oil every 300-1000 miles (depending on the amount of hard single track I've ridden), and I run an auto clutch with final gearing 1 tooth closer to street gearing. I do not take it on the freeway for more than 1-2 exits (only when I have too), but it's otherwise fine on the road (for a high performance dirt bike with a plate):deal

    Note: the TE450/510 is completely different from the TE449/511
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