Tell Honda what you want for off road-survey

Discussion in 'Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.' started by tvbh40a, Feb 2, 2014.

  1. tvbh40a

    tvbh40a PSUViking

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    Got this off the thumper thread. Passing it on. Told them what my dream off road bike would be. Although I think I currently own it. A lightweight XR650 with electric start is a good idea. Always room for improvement.:lol3
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  2. trailrider383

    trailrider383 867-5309

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    I filled out one of those a few years back. I'm headed out tomorrow afternoon to pick up my new fuel injected electric start thumper
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  3. ObiJohn

    ObiJohn Screaming Banshee

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    I want a Honda Freeride 250 4-stroke. They can build the CRF250R and make it weigh 268 lbs. Why can't they lighten it up a little and sell a dual-sport version that weighs under 250 lbs? After all, KTM can.

    I want a bike with a 33" seat height, not a 37" seat height. I want it small, light, and capable. If I wanted a real ripper, I'd buy the current CRF250R. And, if I wanted an overweight bike I'd buy the CRF250L.

    Make it the size, weight, and saddle height of the CRF230L, but get the thing to at least 20 hp, and put slightly better forks and a rear shock on it. I want it light and tractable, not something that's going to tear up the desert.
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  4. acesandeights

    acesandeights Asperger

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    I asked for a DR650 with BNG.
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  5. Mr Dual Sport

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    Done. Light weight, powerful, stiff framed, desert hauler. With kick start.
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  6. linkweewee

    linkweewee tantum quantum

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    More passes in order to ride in WA.
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  7. Apple Jam

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    Honda ( read: I ) needs an NC700X that is actually a true dirty bike.
    18"/21", real suspension, etc...
    They could have a winner.
    A modern Africa Twin with WP Suspension, Duh....
    Frickin' sacreligious to call the current NX700 an "Adventure Bike".
    Absolute nonsense. Even the old 80s NX-650 was waaay closer.

    The NC700X isn't even an "Adventure Tourer".
    It's just a comfier city bike. Probly even a very good city bike. and it probly kicks ass on two-lane twisties.
    But, apparently, Honda's idea of "adventure" is a couple of potholes in a minor city side street,....

    The current "Adventure" city-boy marketing hype is messing with the TRUE Adventure Bike genre started by the GS and mostly perfected by KTM's SE and Adventure (almost....they could lose 50-100 lbs). A touring-sized machine that actually will DO SERIOUS OFF-ROAD with as much enthusiasm as the rider can muster up.
    Ride the WORLD !!!! But Ride Oregon First :nod
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  9. Scott_PDX

    Scott_PDX Leisure Engineer

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    Simple take the KTM 690 specs, but make it Honda reliable and priced.
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  10. Wilder

    Wilder Dirt > Pavement

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    450-500cc FI 4-stroke (or 300 FI 2-stroke:D), small fairing (ala old NX's), E-start, 6 speed, REAL off road suspension, 4 gal tank, 250 pounds or less, no fuel. :deal
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  11. eric n

    eric n Been here awhile

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    I think they need to make the Dakar rally 450 street legal and available in the USA.
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  12. Off Road Ryder

    Off Road Ryder Long timer

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    I want an xr800 with estart and 350 lbs priced below 10G
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  13. Apple Jam

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    That sounds even better.
    V, or Parallel?
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  14. Motomantra

    Motomantra Registered Lurker

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    Everybody wants something different. That's one reason why they won't build it. No one definition of "adventure bike."
    Manufacture's are using it as a catch phrase to sell bikes. Ever since Charley & Ewan trashed their big pigs, every one wants an "adventure" bike.

    When I worked at St. Johns, before George sold it to that Mormon guy, I was lucky enough to have a conversation with a guy from Honda that was high up in the motorcycle division. I asked him why, with so many of us old guys tired of the latest/greatest, Honda wouldn't build an honest touring bike that was also built to do real off-road. His answer was that he didn't know. He was in agreement with me, but didn't think Honda was going to build it. That was a decade ago.

    I think they'll continue to milk the m/c consumer for all they can, making only enough improvements to sell next years model.
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  15. YamaGeek

    YamaGeek Ancient trailbike padwan

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    They still make it, but they still refuse to bring it back the US, the CT90-110.

    We get the goofy Grom instead.
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  16. Apple Jam

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    I think you are partially correct, and not!!! I never have done dirt bikes, or really even Dual-sports over the years. My riding consisted of Sport-touring Honda ST's for cross country travel while I was living in Ohio. Now being here in Washington for 8 years, I have switched my desires to go across the country on slab to venturing off the beaten path. I want comfort for the long haul riding my bike to my destination. For a long time, I have topped the scale over 300#'s, now a bit lower, but never wanted to shoe-horn an XR650 or KLR or smaller up my ass to play off the pavement. A big Adventure Big works for some. I also don't have the space or resources for multiple bikes. I have to make due running on forest service roads and learning skills to maximise the use of my big adventure bike. I don't think I am the only one who sort-of has the one bike limitations going on, yet want to learn about more off roading.

    I see a time in the near future as my daughter now 3 i will start to get her into riding. I think it will be atv's to start, but who knows, maybe dirt bikes so my wife can also learn and make it into family outings.

    I too don't know why Honda is doing what they are, I mean are NOT doing for this industry.

    Jeff
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  18. gameyogi

    gameyogi Been here awhile

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    dear Honda, please make the KTM RFS 525 and the KTM 300 XC-W

    thank you
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  19. Motomantra

    Motomantra Registered Lurker

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    Howz about you head over to the Issaquah Brewery & pick up some menage a frog Belgium beer for the next time you're in Portland area. We'll have a beer & talk it over.
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  20. Off Road Ryder

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    Nothin like a vtwin. Funny how the KTM brand keeps coming up. why do you suppose that is?
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