Tellico Adventure Trail, +SM500+, and TAT_alt

Discussion in 'Southeast, The Lair of the Dragon - The Blue Ridge' started by Baggi'tard, Jul 31, 2014.

  1. Baggi'tard

    Baggi'tard Assventure rider

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    A little short from the area. FR68 has a lot of water breaks, so lots of wheelies and jumps if you want.. :ricky

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  2. ruans187

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    I am planning on going to Tellico Plains to ride DS with a friend from 08/17-20. We are from Florida, and have limited experience (a few Trans florida Dirt/Pavement rides). We have been to Tellico Plains in the past but only riding pavement on bigger bikes.
    Not sure If we will stay at the Farmhouse because we were planning on camping, and just learned about the farmhouse INN; but would love to stop by buy the T-shirt and have a beer or some.
    Now, the question is. In order to the the Tellico Adventure Trail I need a GPS unit? which one works? I use roll charts in the dirt here in FL, because haven't venture into loading tracks, etc... (avoiding it). I own a Garmin Nuvi so I am pretty sure the TAT is not going to work in that unit, right?

    Thank you,
    We are still planning and I happened to find this thread. If anyone else wants to ride those dates, let us know.
    DRZ-400S
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  3. Baggi'tard

    Baggi'tard Assventure rider

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    Would love to have a beer with you. FYI, you better double check your plans and where you think you are going to stay. That is the weekend before the solar eclipse and there is NOTHING left within an hour (two?) of here that I know of to reserve a place to stay (we've been reserved for over a year). I wouldn't even count on the tent campgrounds, they may have taken reservations. Even if they haven't they will be packed full for sure by Friday afternoon.

    Maybe you'd be interested in an October ride/rally?
    http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/70°at-the-farmhouse-tellico-plains-tn-19-22-oct-2017.1240179/


    I'm sure some of the Nuvi can work, but I don't know that. The Nuvi and Zumo are basically the same unit. You don't even need one with a micro sd card slot, it may take it to internal memory (like a BMW navigator). If it doesn't have an app to store/read/save tracks, then it won't. Actually I do have an older Garmin GPSMap60CSX that has the tracks loaded. It can run on batteries and I could install the RAM mount and cradle on your bike. I would be willing to rent/loan that out. Funny that you use roll charts and not GPS, I'm exact opposite, there is no chance in hell I'd deal with a roll chart.

    Good luck,
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  4. ruans187

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    Thanks for replying man. I have RAM mount already so the renting the GPS sounds good.
    Also wanted to ask you if there is some good DS riding near the BRP/Smokey Mtns. IS it doable with paper maps? lol ( I don't like technology much).
    Why is people going there for the eclipse, I thought it is visible anywhere in the US?
    October is not good time for me..bc of childcare.


  5. Baggi'tard

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    Tellico Plains is pretty much dead center of the eclipse track, we are only 3 seconds short of the maximum eclipse time. DS riding near the BRP is pretty limited, there aren't any gravel roads coming off it that I can think of. There is only ONE gravel road in SMNP that I ever ride, and that's the northern boundary. Besides US441 that's the only road that goes "through" the park. I would never send you to Cades Cove either, and now that Parsons Branch road is closed there is zero reason to ride a motorcycle there. At the TN/NC line Hwy 32 turns to gravel in the park and there are some other good roads in NC on the north side of I-40 too (Max Patch, Hurricane Creek, etc).

    The only way you are going to be able to use paper maps for this stuff is to either print out a bunch of small sheets, unless you have a large format plotter. You won't find the tiny local roads or FS roads on many paper maps because they aren't large enough format to show the detail needed. I started using DeLorme Street Atlas back in the early 90s, and I would print off maps of areas I was interested in, write down road names, etc. I still use it, use Basecamp, use Google Earth, and use Forest Service Vehicle Use Maps to plan rides, check stuff out, etc. Sometimes I'll write stuff down, like nearby intersections, etc. if it's something new but local. But if it's someplace I've never been then I make a track for myself. Still easier than dealing with a bunch of paper.
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    Is Parson's Branch Permanently closed?
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    I get the feeling yes.. two guest tried taking it within past couple of weeks and it was still closed. The way the announcement read (it was closed June 2016) it sure seemed like they didn't really have plans/budget to open it back up to vehicles. Supposedly it's still open for horses and people. Some not NP websites still list is as closed, and not "temporarily" with possible opening schedule.
  8. peejman

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    Maps.... These are the best paper (vinyl actually) maps I know of. They include both hiking and riding trails so you've got to be aware of where you can and can't ride. They're highly detailed and you'll need several of them to cover the area. http://www.natgeomaps.com/trail-maps/trails-illustrated-maps

    The USFS publishes motor vehicle maps as well. https://www.fs.fed.us/recreation/programs/ohv/ohv_maps.shtml


    And I would agree that functionally Parson's is permanently closed. Best I recall, there was something like 1400 trees that needed to be removed at estimated cost of $400,000. Maybe they'll put that in their budget and get it approved eventually, but who knows.
  9. ruans187

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    Baggi"tard,
    Thanks again..to summarize..Tellico Plains has way more DS riding than SMNP and BRP. When I visited the BRP in the past I see all these "fire roads" and I thought I could come back to ride those in my DRZ like I am planning now. I guess Tellico Plains might be it.
    Thanks a lot..again
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    Check out the first post for some new info..
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    So, Baggi'tard...We should stop by the farmhouse INN Thursday or Friday morning. I hope you are there.
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    I'll be here!
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    Went riding with the Flowers yesterday. "hey, take us on some stuff we haven't seen yet, some more technical stuff!" Sure I said. David's in his early 60s, it was a bit much for him.. :muutt No damage, no serious injuries except pride. JD and I swapped bikes for a little bit, I figured he would like to experience the superiority of the Husaberg over his 500 EXC :ksteve. He promptly got on, stepped on the same squishy muddy soil I did (uh my fault, guess I should have moved it), fell over, and tumbled down the creek bank. Whew, no damage to the 'Berg (JD was fine too). Damnit, my camera was on, but it was facing backwards.

    It took us 5.5 hours to get to Andrews, barely took 2 hours to get back!

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    As I just stated on Post 1, I just completed a revision to Andy's Smoky Mountain 500. In the meantime I'm still putting together a "big file" of stuff, that will include the classic Tellico Adventure Trail loops along with lots of other interesting tidbits. If y'all can't tell by now, I like finding the more technical things (without being illegal). Andy came up with a great concept, but I've just taken it a bit further for the small and medium dual sport riders. Basically I took out paved and highway sections and added in more forest roads, the single track trails, and the most technical bits we have to offer (see the video right above this, and the other Huffy/Scully vids).

    The yellow, green, and red routes are basically the same, just with my twists thrown in. They vary from 166 to 206 miles, according to Basecamp anyway. YMMV. The biggest change is the blue ribbon route, to take in as much of the difficult terrain between Tellico Plains and Iron Horse as I could. Here's the overview:

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  15. Baggi'tard

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    The Green Route; Suches - Tellico Plains.
    I've added way points for both Whissenhut OHV and the Windy Gap motorcycle trail just in case you want to play around on those. Added some more forest roads between Suches and the TN/GA border, routed in more of the "less maintained" roads around the Big Frog Wilderness area, took out highway miles, and then I added in the Apalachia powerhouse, McFarland Ruins, and penstock waypoints along McFarland road, and Trail 81 (pink track) as options too.

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    The Yellow Route; Tellico Plains - Iron Horse

    Changed the routing over by Fontana Village, added a few of the rougher technical roads between Rafter and Tellico River road, added in Wachessi Mountain, then routed through single track Trail 82 on the way to Witt Road, took out more highway miles. Also added in the seasonally open forest road between Rafter and Citico Creek (the pale/dark yellow track). That track is open from October 1 through mid December is all.

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    The Red Route; Iron Horse - Suches

    Again, just a few alterations, more forest roads, less highway. The route between Suches and Hiawassee has less highway and instead of Hwy 180 it's Hwy 348, which is fun on any bike.

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    Save the best for last:
    The Blue Ribbon Route; Tellico Plains - Iron Horse
    This is my route, the most technical and difficult option as it takes in the Huffman/Scully loop in NC. You can find several videos of it in earlier posts on this thread. Specifically recommended for capable riders and capable bikes. You can easily bypass that section by staying on West Buffalo Rd. This route also includes Tatham Gap, Porterfield Gap (my route through the Little Snowbirds that's been incorporated into the Trans Am Trail), Whigg Meadow, Wauchessi Mountain, Witt Rd, and Trail 82.

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    This oughta be good!
    Four young guys stayed with us last night, on their way across the country. They are from Portland. Flew into Atlanta. Just bought four of the exact same brand new DR650s in Atlanta, all outfitted with identical tanks, handguards, luggage and such. Pretty much same helmets and gear. First day out one of them crashed lightly on gravel, but since they are doing the whole hipster look, his skin took the brunt. Here's hoping they gear up and make it to Portland safely!

    They are filming and writing stories and blogging along the way for all their sponsors. Here's their website https://www.underopenair.com/

    And their off to Witt Road this morning.

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    That's the Flowers loading up their KTM 500 EXCs to head home as well.
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  20. Maarten650

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    Hello fellow Inmates!

    Dirtwoman and I will be in the area (Fire Ant Grill) this weekend (19/20/21 Aug) riding the SM500 and enjoying the eclipse. Are there any people in the area willing to join in, show us around or just hang out? We like to ride dirt, gravel, sand, reasonably fast (not slow :-)) and are good company! Coming from Pensacola FL and Fort Rucker AL, we could use some extra guidance in the beautiful Appalachian Mountains.

    Kind regards,
    Maarten.
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