Tellico Plains,TN Ultimate DS Ride (by Python)

Discussion in 'GPS Tracks - Northeast, Southeast & Florida' started by Python423, May 29, 2007.

  1. Grizz Adams

    Grizz Adams When in Doubt Throttle Out!!

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    There are lots of great fire roads throughout the Cherokee NF. Hard to pick a bad one. My advice would be stick to the main fire roads that run near the river. They are beatiful. I would let him have fun first priority. He can learn to trail ride near the house, where he doesn't have the extra weight of luggage. Tellico MC Outfitters is a great place to get some free advice on the area. Good people!


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  2. MItrnsplnt

    MItrnsplnt PullnG'sTillTheyPuke

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    To anyone that knows the area or that has done the loop,

    I downloaded the GPS tracks that were posted in the first post for the Ultimate DS loop that begins in Tellico Plains and I'll be returning to Robbinsville, NC for our annual Deals Gap trip in May and was planning on doing the loop with a few other guys. We all have very DS capable bikes and are good riders, but my question is: How many opportunities are there for fuel along the way and what are the approximate amount of paved roads that are entailed in the 118 mile loop. Reason why I ask is, because I viewed the tracks in Google Earth to get an idea of what we'll be riding and I can't tell what's paved and what's not, and the only place that showed a gas station, was in Tellico Plains. Appreciate the info!
  3. rabbitrandy

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  4. MItrnsplnt

    MItrnsplnt PullnG'sTillTheyPuke

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    So how long did it take you too revive the bike? Did you stand it up on the back wheel and try to drain all the water out? What exactly did you do?

    Any idea on the gas stations along the route, that I asked in the previous post?
  5. rabbitrandy

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    stood the bike on the back tire. pulled the plug and pumped any water out of the crack case. drained carb. then had to push it off because of weak KTM factory battery. Now has Shorai Battery. No gas stations till you get to Telico. As far as I know.

    We actually launched from a place between Turtle Town and Farner 35 07 36.25N
    84 20 39.11W

    We met the guy that ownes the shop and asked if we could leave our trucks and trailers and was glad to accomodate. Very nice guy!

    We were staying in Blue Ridge Ga. at the time.

    I highly recommend downloading Google Earth. You can see some of the POI's in the area, Buck Bald, Apalachia Dam, Cocker Creek Falls......

    I recommend Crawford Campground if you are looking for a place to stay.
  6. Grizz Adams

    Grizz Adams When in Doubt Throttle Out!!

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    Gas in the area is sparse. There is an Exxon in Tellico Plains. Once you leave there and get in the forest there is no gas. I can go around 110 mi before I hit reserve. I made it fine bit if you have a way to carry a gallon it wouldn't hurt. I tend to do a lot of exploring so I carry a 1.5 gal rotopax style can. Good luck.
  7. Minimike

    Minimike Been here awhile

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    Looks like the guys jumped right into the river to give you a hand. :clap
  8. Brown Dog

    Brown Dog North Georgia Dual Sportr

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    Looks like you Douched that new 530 out :eek1

    Considering lil 530's dont like water crossings, as they go dead :ddog
  9. justcountry04

    justcountry04 Been here awhile

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    wow great tracks I am down in FL but cant wait to get up there and try the route:freaky:clap
  10. halmc

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    I'm considering riding the area in June with some fellow once-upon-a-time juvenille delinquents. A few questions, please:

    1) Are these trails pretty much still open?

    2) Are any permits required on any part of the route for street legal bikes?

    3) Is "python ulitmate02" (presented here) the latest iteration of the routes and tracks?

    4) In order to do trail 81, one would jump off Part 3 (track) and do an out and back?

    5) There's mention of trail 82 . . . is trail 82 part of 'part 2' of the tracks?

    6) The route is laid out for CW riding. Any downside of riding it CW one day, and CCW the next?

    TIA, for any & all answers. BTW, will try to keep in mind the "how not to cross the creek" video!


    Looks like a good way to spend a June day or two when the temp and humidity in Tallahassee are fliriting with 100. Much thanks to python for laying down the trax!
  11. URBAN-ERT TACTIRIDER

    URBAN-ERT TACTIRIDER Getting There!

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    That was awesome, bet that water felt good. I will be riding my new F800GS down this next weekend of June 6th with my buddy who also got his new F800GS from Indiana. I will be trying to learn him some DS skillz on some of the fire roads my son and I rode last year, and maybe some creek crossings if he is feeling up to it. He can run his fatass Harley Electroglide on that dragon so fast, I have problems keeping up with him on my R1200GSA. I dont see how he whips that bitch around so easily. He is an oddity when it comes to Harley riders. He actually rides as much as I do. I logged about 18,000+ in 2011.
    Anyone going to be down there that weekend?
  12. J Banning

    J Banning Been here awhile

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    Thanks to this thread my buddy and I hit Witt Road on our motards last year.
    We first stopped at Tellico Plains Outfitters and were told we wouldn't make it through with slick tires, but we went anyway and it was a blast...


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  13. opjocephus

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    Looks like I am just gonna miss you. I will be leaving on Saturday June 9 but won't make it all the way to the Smokies until the 12th or 13th. And running solo so not gonna take too many chances. Get some pictures for us.
  14. Yankee Dog

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    I "think" there is gas in Reliance. http://www.webbbros.com/ Rode past there just last week, the pumps are there but I cant be sure they were in operation.

    Again, there might be gas at Hall's Grocery, Archville (intersection of 30 and Kimsey Mountain Hwy). I got gas there but it has been a couple or three years.



    I was down there over Memorial day. the roads are all open. Or at least we didnt run into anything closed in three days of riding. We didn follow the loop exactly, but we ran over a lot of it. Permits are not required. You must be street legal.

    trail 82 runs East from Hwy 68. Stop at Motocycle Outfitters in Tellico for directions.
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    Mucho thanks. Any estimate of how much of it is dirt?
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    315/30 and 68 are nice twisty pavement. most of the East/West connecting them are are insanely twisty dirt.

    Witt road is dirt with water crossing. becareful on the southern most. the others are easy peasy.

    Also be careful on trail 81. it is built on the side on a rather steep hill. if you get off trail you are in a hurt.

    The Oswald dome section is a lot of fun. We just rode it last week as well.
  17. halmc

    halmc Turkey T*urd

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    For me and for one of my buds, the issue is whether to ride knobby-shod KtM EXC's, or non-knobby-shod 650 DS's (he a KLR and me a Dakar.) All are street legal.

    Which is the better choice, and thanks for helping me out on this proposed ride.
  18. Yankee Dog

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    I like my knobbies, but the guy I rode with had trials tires. He did just fine, even through the water crossing. The roads are for the most part good gravel roads. Even the creek bottoms are gravel. I might change my opinion if you ride during or just after a hard rain. but otherwise I think you will be fine.

    YMMV and all that :evil
  19. wawarides

    wawarides where's Laura0107?

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    Python423's tracks are great, aren't they?! But his "ultimate02" file has only a fraction of the great dirt/gravel around Tellico Plains. Keep looking at his other posts and nab all of his GPX files. I must have 7 or 8 of them.

    Here are some highlights that are not on the tracks in his ultimate02 file:

    Citico Creek area - just gorgeous. Doublecamp Creek/Cold Spring Rd loop off of Citico Rd - highly recommended.

    Go bald hopping to beat the heat: Waucheesi (at the end of Lookout Tower Rd), BeaverDam Bald, and Whigg Meadow (5,000'). I picked huckleberries at Whigg last July (yum) but I'm not sure if they'll be in season in June. You'd probably appreciate knobbies on the climb up to Waucheesi.

    FS81 & N. River Rd (FS217) - the "Gravelhala"

    Bald River Rd, Old Furnace, Davis Creek Rd ... I could go on and on. It is hard to narrow this stuff down to a day or two of riding! You'll see some waypoints in Python423's files east of the northern part of Davis Creek Rd but those aren't open to motorized traffic any more (OHV area that got closed).

    I'd recommend knobbies on Trails 81 & 82 also, especially on 81. Trail 81 does not have to be an out & back as you mentioned, the north trail head is on McFarland Road and the south trail head is on Smith Mountain Rd. Check with Mike at Tellico Motorcycle Outfitters (Minimike on ADV) to see if any trees are down on those two trails the day before or morning of your ride.

    Have fun!
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    does the road go all the way through to Whigg Meadow or do you have to hike the last part. I was thinking of heading over that way over Memorial Day but chickened out since I wasnt sure.

    PS. How is the Sprint doing?