Tenere vs Explorer vs Stelvio NTX

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Jud, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. Jud

    Jud Long timer

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    I will say that if the Tenere is anything like my FJR, reliability should be a given. But, I'm in the exact opposite position as far as dealerships go being that Rider's Hill {local Guzzi dealership} is my home away from home and I'm not all that keen on the local Yammy dealer if and when the Tenere needs the valves checked/adjusted. Also, the Guzzi has screw type adjusters and they are stupid proof simple to do. So, dealership availability only worries me if I'm off somewere and the bike is known to be unreliable. I have not heard of any reliability issues with modern Guzzis in general. That would be an issue if I were buying a KTM {although their rep has improved alot with the 990s} or with a BMW 1200GS. I will say that I honestly think the Tenere would be the best reliability wise though.
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  2. leafman60

    leafman60 Long timer

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    I just completed a valve lash service on my NTX. The entire process consumes maybe an hour and a half and can be done in a parking lot with simple tools. I just posted a picture thread.

    People considering bikes do not always look down the road at issues such as service difficulty and expense but I think doing so is a good idea.

    Aside from all the other attractions of the Guzzi, it is very, very simple to maintain. I'd hate to have to tackle a valve service for a shim-and-bucket, straight 4 or triple. Not even gonna think about a desmo.
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  3. ggamster

    ggamster Been here awhile

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    The valve adj. on the tenere is every 26600 miles.
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  4. slipknot

    slipknot Been here awhile

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    Shim and bucket valve adjustments are easy, needing only a bit more time. I like scheduling anything more than oil changes or tire changes for winter months because I'm not being rushed to get it back together for the annual vacation ride and I'm not frustrated by parts not in stock because I've got 3 months or more to get stuff delivered. As for Yamahas specifically and shim/bucket Nippon products in general, the first valve check very often does not require an adjustment. And here is the drawback of their products: so little goes wrong and so little adjustments are needed one tends to get rusty in the skills department. So the winter months are even more appreciated for the extra time to double check the work and confirm no tools are left inside the patient.:lol3
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  5. bmac

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    I loved my FJR and I when I bought it 6 years ago I did not think I would ever sell it. But, just like you, it no longer fit my desire to find some non-paved roads. There are a lot of current S10 owners that previously owned FJR's. I don't recalling seeing anyone that regretted that decision. The suspension on the S10 is vastly superior but the FJR did have better protection from the weather and a very sweet engine.

    Unless one of the other bikes blows you away don't be afraid to pick up an S10. It may not be the Super Model we all lust after but it is a dynamite girl next door that you could be happy with for a very long time.
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  6. Jud

    Jud Long timer

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    Yea, figured it would roughly mirror my FJR's valve inspection intervals. And yea,,, that certainly beats the Stelvio for sure especially considering my FJR has only had one valve adjustment in 80K miles and that was due to new valve guides courtesy Ma Yamaha.

    But considering how easy the Stelvio's valves are to get to, it might be a pleasure to do them myself. Nahhhh,,,,, I would rather not touch em and apparently you can do that on Yamaha's dispite their apparantly very conservative valve adjustment checks.:wink:

    Still though,,,, I do like the Guzzi's simplicity.:1drink
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  7. Jud

    Jud Long timer

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    I sorta see what you are saying and I'm not trying to be contrary but man,,,,, I just don't see would could be easier than a Guzzi and I can't see a Tenere only needing a "bit more time". :huh

    But, like money, power and speed,,,,,,,,,,,,, I suppose time is relative too.:D

    I do agree on the Yammy nonmaintenance intervals.:1drink
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  8. Jud

    Jud Long timer

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    I think I have pretty much scratched the Triumph off the list. Not dirty as the other two and the least range. Only thing going for it in my eyes are the cruise. Maybe the cruise thingie will knock some sense in Ma Yamaha and they will offer it. Sorta doubt it as I can almost be sure Guzzi will not have it anytime soon but hey,,,,,aftermarket cruise control can be had for a couple hundred bucks and a few hours of work and it's reliable as all get out, least the one on my DL has been.

    Now, if Triumph decides to hit a home run and make a more adventury version with a larger tank,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:lurk:shog:lol3
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  9. DirtisGood

    DirtisGood Rhino Adventures

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    The 2012 Moto Guzzi Stelvio is a weapon Off Road and I have pushed mine to the limits, single tracks and all
    http://eagledream.wix.com/stelvio-owners-tassie
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    A bit more than $800. He also makes a (almost) bullet proof skid plate. :rofl

    Pete
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  11. Sock Monkey

    Sock Monkey 99% bullshitter...the other 1% is just lies

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    :clap

    Glad to see someone out there putting the big girl through her paces. :thumb

    2 questions:
    - Have you had any issues with nuts/bolts coming loose offroad? Some folks on the Stelvio thread have been complaining that their bikes are rattling apart, and I'd like to figure out if this is just their lack of maintenance or something unique to the NTX.
    - How do you like the MRA X-creen (I assume that's what's bolted to the top of your windscreen)? I'm thinking of doing something similar for added protection from the elements on longer rides in the lovely (aka sh*t) weather we're having. :lol3

    Thanks!

    -SM
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  12. espi

    espi scheming adventurer

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    I'm also curious too what Sock Monkey is asking...
    Any reliability issues?

    :hmmmmm:lurk
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