Tesla Model S test drive...Elon Musk hands a journalist a large serving of Fail.

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by DriveShaft, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. DriveShaft

    DriveShaft Long timer

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Oddometer:
    5,280
    So, apparently there's an auto journalist named John Broder who sort of has a beef about the state of electric vehicles. He pretty much set out to slam any test drive of an EV he could get. What does he get his hands on? A Tesla Model S. His New York Times article pretty much slams it as having failed his test drive.

    Elon Musk begs to differ, and then proceeds to hand Broder his ass. It's hilarious to me how busted Broder was. Musk must've spent a week figuring out what actually happened on the test drive.

    http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/most-peculiar-test-drive
    #1
  2. madeouttaglass

    madeouttaglass Awful Kanauphyl

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2009
    Oddometer:
    4,691
    Location:
    The Lost Coast of California
    I hope Musk personally sues his ass to bankruptcy.
    #2
  3. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Oddometer:
    18,557
    Location:
    Western Sierras
    Broder sounds like an ass.

    I haven't been a big fan of electric cars because of their lack of ability to drive continuously with only brief stops for fuel. That said; I think there are people who get everything they need from an electric. If I lived in a big city, the Tesla Roadster might be my daily driver, with a gas car for trips.

    There have been lots of advances in those cars, with Tesla doing some great work. They are pretty darn close to fast enough when it comes to charging time, with a 30 minute charge giving about 150 miles. If you are staying in California, you would be in good shape. It is pretty lame to harm Musk's hard work by making stuff up. If he wanted to see what happened when it ran out of power, fine, but be honest about it. I think Musk has a legitimate case against Broder for slander and maybe even financial loss.
    #3
  4. Motornoggin

    Motornoggin Two-Bit Throttle Bum

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2004
    Oddometer:
    22,514
    Location:
    Lightning Bugs, High Plains Chapter
    A dishonest journalist pushing an agenda?!?!:eek1

    That's unpossible!
    #4
  5. Chuck289

    Chuck289 Air cooled

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2009
    Oddometer:
    2,275
    Location:
    SF Bay, California
    :roflOMFG!!

    "...the display said "0 miles remaining." Instead of plugging in the car, he drove in circles for over half a mile in a tiny, 100-space parking lot. When the Model S valiantly refused to die, he eventually plugged it in."
    #5
  6. a1fa

    a1fa Throttle Jockey™

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2006
    Oddometer:
    15,213
    Location:
    Arkansas
    What a jerk...
    #6
  7. 68deluxe

    68deluxe Long timer

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2003
    Oddometer:
    33,375
    Location:
    Phoenix AZ
    +100
    #7
  8. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Oddometer:
    43,420
    Location:
    Belvedere, Marin County
    #8
  9. Chuck289

    Chuck289 Air cooled

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2009
    Oddometer:
    2,275
    Location:
    SF Bay, California
    Sounds like Broders responses are pretty much "so and so told me to do this, blah blah, and that's why the car died"

    Im inclined to believe the data from the car rather than Broder.

    "I stopped at 72 percent because I had replenished more than enough energy for the miles I intended to drive the next day"

    If he had the time to charge over night, why the hell wouldn't he just charge to 100% like any normal person would?!
    #9
  10. SimpleSimon

    SimpleSimon Aspiring advrider

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2007
    Oddometer:
    3,399
    Location:
    Lake Stevens, WA
    Have you sat in one of those new Tesla sedans? Damn nice.

    My 5-10 year goal is to build an energy neutral home (solar and tie-to-grid) that can accomodate charging an electric for 20k miles per year.
    #10
  11. Emperor Norton

    Emperor Norton Kilroy was here

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,326
    Location:
    North of Alcatraz
    While the guy comes across as an oil company shill is it posible that in this case he was just circling looking for a parking space?
    #11
  12. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Oddometer:
    43,420
    Location:
    Belvedere, Marin County
    Read the link. He was looking for the charging station Tesla sent him to.
    #12
  13. FPGT72

    FPGT72 Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2006
    Oddometer:
    10,357
    Location:
    Kingsville MO
    No matter how you view electric cars....or cars in general this really ticks me off....who was it that did everything they could to tip a car over, make it catch fire....oh wait the unbias media.
    #13
  14. mark883

    mark883 and the mysterians

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Oddometer:
    1,614
    Location:
    Buckeyeland
    Charging stations are not always the easiest thing to find in a parking lot- especially when its full of cars.
    #14
  15. Emperor Norton

    Emperor Norton Kilroy was here

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2010
    Oddometer:
    1,326
    Location:
    North of Alcatraz
    #15
  16. DriveShaft

    DriveShaft Long timer

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Oddometer:
    5,280
    I'm drawing much of my gut feel from the whole picture, not that one item...It's the consistency of mis-information that point out the journalists obvious interest in painting an inaccurate picture. Essentially the only thing he proved is "If you really want to run out of gas...you can." But you have to try pretty hard to be that much of an idiot.

    I did the same thing when I drove my civic out of gas. Irrationally skipping right by gas stations with the INTENT to run out of gas... My favorite stint was rolling into the gas station sputtering on fumes. That was *satisfying*. But I wasn't writing an article about how well the gas station network supported my commute the week of Exxon's quarterly report was I? He was obviously being a dick.
    #16
  17. madeouttaglass

    madeouttaglass Awful Kanauphyl

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2009
    Oddometer:
    4,691
    Location:
    The Lost Coast of California
    this.
    It will be interesting to see how being a dick to a billionaire works out for him.
    #17
  18. Murf2

    Murf2 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2007
    Oddometer:
    983
    Location:
    Kansas
    So it's ok to be a billionaire if your pc?
    #18
  19. PoundSand

    PoundSand Long timer

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Oddometer:
    11,028
    Location:
    socal
    I suspect most of you all haven't read the og article, then Musk's comments, then the response from broders. He stopped at 72%, after charging it at one of the superchargers for over an hour. It was not at the over night stop. How long do you want dude to sit there? Reading all 3 pieces of info, I believe broders is generally being on the up and up, and musk is being a bit of a jerk off in his responses (and I'm a huuuge musk fan - he's the closest we have to a real life tony stark).
    #19
  20. madeouttaglass

    madeouttaglass Awful Kanauphyl

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2009
    Oddometer:
    4,691
    Location:
    The Lost Coast of California
    I see a BS article. The "reporter" has excuses for his parking lot driving, car speeds and charging yet the data logging shows lies about his temperature settings. I think they show lies about his entire drive.
    #20