Tesla Model S test drive...Elon Musk hands a journalist a large serving of Fail.

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by DriveShaft, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. Bueller

    Bueller Cashin?

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    I'm in this camp. Putting the issues already presented aside, as the newspaper business continues to deteriorate it seems the staff are taking ever sharper, more biased, more outrageous approaches to try to sell papers. Like magazines it is a dying medium and there are a whole bunch of people heading for unemployment if they don't write things that sell. No one cares about the truth anymore.
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  2. DriveShaft

    DriveShaft Long timer

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    Precisely. Musk doesn't even have to write a single word. The charts look nothing like what he wrote. Musk doesn't have the professional obligation of fair and objective journalism. Broder does. Musk has the obligation of maximizing shareholder return. I can see why Musk writes in the way he does, once provoked. But Broder does the provoking.
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  3. Chuck289

    Chuck289 Air cooled

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    He said he stopped charging at 72% because he had more than enough mileage for his drive the NEXT DAY. Which leads me to believe he had all night to charge the car, so why didn't he?
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  4. slackmeyer

    slackmeyer Don't mean sheeit. .

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    Because he had to stand there at the charging station, and not relax at his hotel maybe?
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  5. PoundSand

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    When I look at the log, and musk says he drove at speeds from 65-81 for the majority of the trip (which may technically be true, can't tell, but cmon. He was at 81 for a tiny, tiny blip, and you can see he was going real slow Dow a real long time), you can see what musk is trying to do. As pointed out in the response, the article didn't say he lowered the temp at mile 182 - in fact, it said it was after he put it on cruise. If you take the 50mph line to be where he says 45mph, as musk does, you can see it's around mile 100, and the temp is below 72 then.

    Musk is being way too defensive and making to many excuses imo.
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  6. PoundSand

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    You should try reading the og article. :-)

    He was at one of the two supercharger stations, at a milford service center, hanging out at a dunkin donuts, and let it charge nearly an hour already. He specifically mentioned he then went out and about to the tune of 79 miles, before parking for the night, and planned to return the next day before finishing his trip (which he had to do anyway).

    Unless he's a lot lizard, he didn't have all night. :-)
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  7. chazbird

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    Late last summer or in the early fall the New York Times ran a story (perhaps not by the same reporter) about the Tesla S easily making the range goals on a drive from Lake Tahoe to Los Angeles while stopping at Tesla super stations. Going by that it doesn't seem the paper is out to debunk Tesla.
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  8. chazbird

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    Late last summer or in the early fall the New York Times ran a story (perhaps not by the same reporter) about the Tesla S easily making the range goals on a drive from Lake Tahoe to Los Angeles while stopping at Tesla super stations. Going by that it doesn't seem the paper is out to take down Tesla.
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  9. rapidoxidationman

    rapidoxidationman Easily trainable

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    The paper? No.

    The reporter? Maybe.
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  10. a1fa

    a1fa Throttle Jockey™

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    Electric cars are not for everybody. We know that. We get it. Stop writing about it. Write what needs to be done to make it better.

    Unfortunately they are still only a privilege for a select few people. While recharging may be free, you are better off getting a nice F350 Kingrach with 6.7L diesel, and paying for the fuel for the next 30 years. We all know that... economics a side, until all car companies get on board, and until the network expands, this car will be nothing more than a toy.

    Now having said that, bashing a vehicle, and a system that could potentially be the future, on top of that providing a sensationalized report, is very irresponsible and immature journalism.

    We should all embrace technology, and innovation. While this car may not be perfect, the early adopters of the technology are paving a way towards more innovation, technology, and economies of scale.

    Just because we can burn oil, does it really mean we should? Exxon, BP, and others want you to think so.

    In this age, it is even possible to recharge batteries wirelessly. Imagine 30 years from now, there won't even be gas stations. You will be driving down the road passing through a "visual" checkpoint, and with the click of the button, your car would be recharged on the fly.

    I hate to be that guy, but get your tin-foil hats out, there are lot of people who want to see demise of electric and alternative vehicles. It is an industry changing concept, and there are a lot of people out there who have a lot to loose.
    We see this in a lot of different industries when old business is unable to adapt to new technology, embrace it, and come out with a different business model.

    Instead, It is status quo, business as usual... Lobby more....
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  11. a1fa

    a1fa Throttle Jockey™

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    If, and when, new electric carts come down the $"teens", you bet your ass I will be driving one. We will see a drastic price decrease within next several generations of EVs.
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  12. LuciferMutt

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    As for this "journalist," what a douche. Personally, I'm no fan of electric cars, but given the chance to review one I'd like to think I would drive it and review it just like any other car I had done the same with. The fact that he changed up his agenda just because it was an electric car is just the tip of the iceberg.
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  13. bobobob

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    It's called socially engaged advocacy these days.
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  14. Anorak

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    I think it would be difficult to drive an electric car like a gasoline powered car without getting stranded by a depleted battery or delayed by extended charging time.

    The issue appears to be that the car may not perform as claimed without some attention to details not made clear in the promotional press.

    As an aside, Musk made his fortune by starting Paypal. How do most people feel about Paypal. Perhaps he is still the guy who started such a beloved company.
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