Textile jackey made in the USA??

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by CheesyRider2, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. frog13

    frog13 Long timer

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    No need to apologize....communist are communist.Those poor folks who do work in those shops don't have much choice since their Gov. is communist. The U.S. use to have similiar working conditions not so long ago!....hopefully things will change for them(Non- Communist Gov.).Buy U.S.A. as much as you can....it feeds OUR comrades.People need to get back to U.S.A. first,then "worry" about other peoples......a strong U.S.A. is able to help other's,not the other way around.Never give into Liberalism....it is the path that leads to shops those poor folks have to work in.. Try lookin at Motoport perhaps.Also,I wonder how much cheese the Chinese really import?.:D
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    If you're concerned about style , you're missing the boat.
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  3. acejones

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    Screw the Chinese. They can buy cheese elsewhere. I expect most of that Wisconsin cheese is being subsidized by the US Dept. Of Agriculture anyway.
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  4. schaffer40

    schaffer40 I look lived in.....

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    Some or most of this companies products are Made in the USA. I believe you need to check from item to item. I have no affiliation. They have a vendor section but I could not track it down. Here is their website.

    http://dubinky.com/
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  5. BCC

    BCC I know better

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    I buy major purchases from North American made & based companies first and then from free traders second. It's how I've rationalized purchasing products from Germany and Japan, for example. If they trade equitably, pay workers reasonably or if they are developing countries playing by the rules, I'll buy from them.

    China? No.

    It can be more expensive. I had 90 or so solar panels put on the house recently. Cheapest was stuff dumped in the US by the Chinese, but we went with a Japanese company manufacturing in the US.

    You can't avoid all the Chinese crap. But I try to limit my purchases to low end commodity stuff instead of the higher end gear they copycat and patent infringe.

    There is quality motorcycle clothing made in Romania and several Asian countries that play by the rules better than China.
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  6. frog13

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    Agree.....good post!.
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  7. Schlug

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    China has indicated that it will stop handing down sentences to its controversial labor camps, which allow detention without trial for up to four years. According to Chinese media, some 160,000 prisoners were held in "re-education centers" at the end of 2008.

    He became an outspoken critic of labor camps after spending 15 months in one. He was sent there by police, at the age of 24, without trial or even seeing a lawyer. His crime? Criticizing the local government in Chongqing by retweeting or forwarding 100 messages containing "negative information."

    film about one labor camp shows blue-suited inmates bent over their work making electrical wiring. The inmates make computer cables and headphones for MP3 players.
    Ren says he worked for about 10 hours a day, during which he was not allowed to speak to fellow inmates. He seldom had a day off.

    The authoritative Xinhua news agency had this to say: "No further information on the reform was available for now."

    http://www.npr.org/2013/01/07/168808588/china-pledges-reforms-to-labor-camps-but-offers-few-details

    I think a few of these people called the fire marshal, but since they were in prison without trial, without ever seeing a lawyer, and busy making products for sale on the open market, their calls weren't taken.
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  8. VFR Titus

    VFR Titus Adventurer

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    Well I&#8217;m not saying that doesn&#8217;t happen, all I can say is from personal experience from living in Jiangsu province for two years is that I&#8217;ve seen people singing hymns in churches and no prison camps (I drove by a prison once located near a tea farm without knowing and asked one of my managers if that&#8217;s a resort&#8230;.).<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    Then again they are probably hidden away up north or west so I&#8217;m not saying they don&#8217;t exist. But I've seen workers threaten to make bogus reports to fire marshals unless business owners paid some extra "bonus". Usually it happens when a factory looks for new workers after every Chinese new years in the big tier 1 cities and a group of migrant workers from the same village out west signs up together as a production line. Then they&#8217;ve got &#8220;bargaining power&#8221; when they can rally all their same-village friends to go on strike or beat the owners or burn their buildings down.<o:p></o:p>
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    I&#8217;ve known competitors who at the cheering on of Walmart and other big chain customers invested in opening up new town-sized factories in the late 2007s; &#8220;build it and we will place zillions of pairs of jeans orders with you. Contract? Nah you don&#8217;t need contract, we&#8217;re a Fortune 500 company! We&#8217;re North American, you can trust our business ethics! Risks? Well, that&#8217;s part of your job to take our risks!&#8221;. Then in 2008 Walmart and other guys go &#8220;ops&#8221; and walk away, the workers demand pay, the local government who welcomed their investment in the beginning now threaten to jail them to set a public example, the bankers obviously want their umbrellas back now that it&#8217;s raining and the guy&#8217;s family goes from owning 6 high end cars and real estate in Hong Kong to bankrupt over the course of a few weeks (and I can't imagine being that second generation guy who ended a 40 year old family business that way). And the guy who jumped off a building after his toy factory unwittingly bought paint from a fraudulent lead laced paint from a guy who was supposed to be his friend? Not saying that they didn&#8217;t&#8217; have their day in the sun when business was good but don&#8217;t think for a second that people running those factories don&#8217;t take on risks with running any kind of businesses. Usually they suffer worse fates (if they&#8217;re caught) than most North American executives (even if they&#8217;re caught) when they commit crimes. <o:p></o:p>
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    Anyway, the world exists in shades of grey, good stuff happens with bad people and bad stuff happens with good people globally. Before they develop the mental faculties to evaluate situations on its own merit, children view things as black and white and if one apple is bad then all apples are bad. Just hope there&#8217;s more adults in the world that&#8217;s all.

    And ok, this is waaaay off topic, I'm not going to respond anymore; feel free to have your own beliefs and I'll stick with my own that prison camps exists and people trying their best to make a living also exists.
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  9. panhead_dan

    panhead_dan motorcycle addict

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    I found a pretty good jacket about 8 years ago from a company right here in Oregon. I believe they said it was made in the US. Sadly, I must have been the only person to buy one and they are no longer available. It has served me well and kept me safe and comfy all these years.
    It is (was) called "Rooster Performance). The list of features is huge and blows anything else out of the water. Mine was $180 delivered, new.
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  10. beemerron

    beemerron machine washable

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    I've had my Stich for 18 years and other then frayed collar and cuffs and new pads, it is still waterproof and very functional. Other suits may be more stylish but I doubt any are more durable.
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  11. StuartV

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    My first set of Syed custom leathers turns 20 years old in a few months. Despite numerous crashes and repairs, they are still wearable - and I can even still fit in them!

    But, my Motoport Kevlar suit, though only 4 years old, will probably outlast them and my 'stich, put together. I think Kevlar is way more durable than leather or Cordura.
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  12. Schlug

    Schlug JockeyfullofBourbon

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    I sent my old (and I mean, 110,000 mile, 8 year old) Darien pants in for a broken zipper and a snap replacement. They went through the garment, laundered it, re-applied the DWR, and fixed any frayed or damaged lining. The work they did was more than impressive.

    I'll be doing the same to my Darien Jacket, which has even more miles on it since it's the jacket I use 90% of the time and the pants share duty.
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  13. Terence FFM

    Terence FFM prof. cat-herder

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    The OP did't indicate a price range so I will assume he is a typical rich Yankee (relax, it's a stab at all the stereotypes floating out there in Internetland) with buckets of cash to spend.

    All kidding aside, you'll need deep pockets because the only brands I am aware of that still manufacture their wares here are Rukka (made in Finland but also Portugal in the meanwhile) and Stadler (Germany). I can encourage you to buy lots of gear from Stadler because a) it is totally primo gear and b) since Germany is floating the lion's share of the growing debacle they call the EU, we need all the help we can get.

    Feel free to buy a nice German car to bring it all home in too (refer to point b). :lol3
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  14. swimmer

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    Much of it is not.
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  15. frog13

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    Info indicating it is not U.S.A. made.
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    The absence of info indicating it is.
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  17. ElTigre1

    ElTigre1 Been here awhile

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    FoxCreek makes Cordura and leather. Vanson makes the Odyssey and the Night Falcon jackets out of 1000 denier Cordura. My Night Falcon was my favorite jacket ever.
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