The 1200 Tiger Explorer Mega Thread

Discussion in 'British Beasts: Triumph Tigers' started by dutchie, Sep 17, 2010.

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Explorer or Explorer/XC

  1. Explorer

  2. Explorer/xc

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  1. EggChaser

    EggChaser Been here awhile

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    The gearbox is a casette style box which apparently also makes it easy to change the design of the final drive, the idea being that Triumph will then be able to easily use the same engine and gearbox in a range of bikes with either shaft or chain (or possibly belt I suppose)

    As such he is kind of mixing an element of truth with a huge dollop of marketing speak :huh
  2. innominate

    innominate Adventurer

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    Sounds like you got a hell of a bike :thumb I just picked mine up today. I was just thinking you got hell of a deal. I was getting jealous :evil
  3. Fasttrak

    Fasttrak Captain Crash

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    My big day for stepping into the world of big street bikes, this being labeled the "Adventure Touring" segment. Finally found a dealer with the two bikes I was seriously considering, Stelvio NTX and the Triumph Explorer. Salesman busted his ass to get both bikes built and ready for viewing as he received both on Friday. This also happened to be about the furthest dealer from me that I was even willing to travel, due to the salesman's enthusiastic nature, sincere sounding and general good nature, I made the trek. Almost 220 miles out to lonely Elk Grove California.

    Had I known the weather forecast for the day I might of actually gotten up much earlier and pressed to get there by nine am, such was not the case and we arrived about eleven am. Turned out to be a good move as the two mechanics were busting butt to get the Stelvio completed but as I walked through the entry the silver standard model Explorer was smiling at me. I think I was smitten right there. I was showing up to look at the Black launch edition Explorer but that silver just looked so damn sleek I had totaly forgotten about the Stelvio until the salesman stepped up and said the NTX was being wheeled up to the showroom at that moment.

    I didn't even bother to ask for a demo ride, odd I know but having almost entirely off-road background the most important thing to me was ergonomics. Any of the current Adventure bikes would put a smile on my face and give me a chance to earn some serious seat time that would garner me the background to know exactly what I wanted in a future purchase. I did sit on both bikes, poked, prodded and look over every square inch of the bikes and in the end, the Explorer just seemed to fit me better and was whispering at me the whole time. The NTX sure was a pretty bike, almost regal in it's stature but in the end it was a bit daunting of a bike as my first bike street bike and I was a bit intimidated by it.

    With the decision made the whole process of actually purchasing a bike began and I got to say, that salesman made it as painless and easy a process as I have ever experienced. It did take a while as I only put down about a 1/3 of the price and used that 5.99 Triumph financing to cover the rest. They even went so far as to steal the large fairing off the launch bike to put on mine as I had a pretty long haul back home. I wasn't all that aware that the central valley had hit mid summer already and the temps outside the air conditioned offices\showroom was quickly climbing to 106 degrees.

    All paperwork completed and the full PDI on the bike done, we did the walk around (way too much info as only ten percent stuck) and does this bike have some gadgets, still need to read the manual and figure most of it out. Got the info gauge set to miles left till empty and I was happy.

    Sadly, the only gear I have that is decent is my fairly recent acquisition of Klim's Badlands set and with that I realized it was going to be one hell of a toasty ride home. At 106 degrees the heat that comes off that engine is.. roasting, as in I felt like a roasted chicken and my nuts were full blown toasted within the first 60 miles. It took several stops for Gatorade to re-hydrate, yeah I forgot my Camelback, and to get my body temp back down to a reasonable level before heading off again.

    Upon getting the goodbyes done at the dealer I realized my heart was some what racing and to a small degree I was scared a bit shitless. The closest thing to a street bike I have owned long term was the only other street legal bike in my stable, the Husky TE610. Sitting on the Explorer with engine humming along ever so softly I realized, I was way the hell in over my head and one hell of a long ways from home sitting in a friggin dutch oven. I will say this, that clutch is ever so soft, of course I drug that bitch out way too long and that rheostat of a throttle allowed me to way over-rev that intial launch; good thing twenty people were milling around the parking lot staring at watercraft... Heart is really going now, the heat is pounding through my jacket, head and any exposed surfaces to that blowtorch of a sun. What an awesome exit at about sixty onto Highway 99, so much for keeping it under 3,500 rpm for the first 100KM...

    It literally took me the better part of an hour to settle down, get a feel for the heck the bike was doing under me and get calm once again. At this point I realize my head is slightly pounding from the heat and lack of water so I pull off the highway and chug down a quart of Gatorade. Sit around marveling at this new beuty sitting in front of me and try lowering my body temp a bit. Hit the Highway again and do my best to stick to the sub 3,500 rpm for the first 100KM and then sub 4,000 for the next 100KM. Not easy to do with that effortless and fairly quiet motor and transmission, this thing is seriously deceptive and before you know it you're doing 85MPH in a 55 and forced to back down.

    After about two hours in the saddle I finally felt real comfortable on the bike, it's habbits and had total control of that rheostat throttle. Folks that lean on the bars and throttle are probably gonna hate this one, you need to be smooth with it and it will just pull away in any gear with out a single complaint from the motor or the driveline. It is really that butter smooth. Since I have no experience on Highways on anything above 320 LBS I was blown away how stable a bike can be in heavy winds at high speeds, I truly fell in love crossing Pacheko Pass which is notorious for it's heavy crosswinds and canyon cut back currents. I could feel the odd tug here and there but that bike was planted and stable the entire time and sadly, I went well past that 4,000 rpm limit and hit 100MPH, honestly wasn't intentional, was blown away to even realize I was at the century mark and looked all over cause I was certain a cop was gonna be racing up on me, thank the gods that wasn't the case. I wish I could give you more street biker specific feedback, but I am only now stepping into that realm with this purchase. By the time I got home, I was so damn comfy on this bike it was kind of scary, just very relaxed and knew exactly what to expect from it, I can't wait to see what this things does above 6,000 rpm's.


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  4. Big Jon

    Big Jon Been here awhile

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    Thanks innominate. I saw yours on the Explorer forum today. She's a beauty!:thumb
  5. Big Jon

    Big Jon Been here awhile

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    Great report Fasttrak. Congrats on the new TEX. She is GORGEOUS! :clap

    Do you think we'll ever get the silly wide grin off our faces?
  6. Fasttrak

    Fasttrak Captain Crash

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    Thanks so much, I can't even begin to say how happy I am with this bike, it is that stable and comfortable I know it is going to carry me for very many miles. I think the grin is permanent, it goes with the purchase of that first special bike that lights the fire in your belly, for me it's this Explorer. The last forty miles home the temps dropped to about 94 degrees and everything was good, no roasting of the nuts or legs, heat not even noticed. Motor just loves to purr along so happily, almost like it is begging to to get to the next town or mountain. I am smitten.

    Tomorrow I am taking her out to the coast and gonna show her Highway 1. I know we'll both enjoy the views, the cool ocean air and some blissful curvy roads. I can hardly wait and probably will have another shitty night of no sleep :p



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  7. Bryn

    Bryn Leicester England

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    I'm extremely jealous... all we get here is rain :(:


    Enjoy your ride... and don't forget the pictures :nod
  8. SkiFastBadly

    SkiFastBadly A beer? Yes, please

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    As I usually do, I left the house on my Buell Ulysses yesterday with no particular direction or destination in mind. I found myself not too far from the Triumph dealier in Issaqua WA, and thought, hell, I'll go see if they have one of these newfangled Explorers in yet. I like this particular dealership because they're pretty casual with test rides. They'd alreadly let me ride the 800 roadie and the Super Tenere there. Also, they don't run out into the parking lot and start throwing poo at my Buell when I pull in, unlike some Harley Davidson dealers I could mention. I didn't see one on the floor, but they said "oh yeah, we have one in back. But it's a little dinged up." Apparently one of our motocycling bretheran took it it out with only two miles on the clock and dropped it in the parking lot. Fifteen hundred dollars, I was told it would cost to put it right. Whoa, I've dropped my Uly a couple of times and the only result was people laughing at me. The side was scuffed and the turn signal was taped on and the shifter lever was a bit tweaked, but they said "well, go ahead, here's the keys." So I did. Since I've been reading about this bike here, I had a few preconceptions. Firstly, I 've read here that the bike was massive and top heavy. It didn't seem that way to me at all. The seat's lower than my Uly, so I could easily flat foot it, whereas with Uly I'm on the balls of my feet. But that throttle, I tell ya, that was something else. Really touchy, it seemed to me. It started to rain and the guy says "hey be careful, rain, new tires, etc." Then he started pushing buttons trying to make sure the ABS was on, it looked like there was some secret process which I thought was rather off-putting. Seems like a simple off/on switch would be a hell of a lot less screwing around. Anyway, I took it out gingerly. It really is a very nice bike and it fit me perfectly. I had a run on the freeway and that thing zips. I was in 6th gear going 70 and I twisted the throttle and I was at 85 before I could say "Hey, I'm going 85." I took it down a twisty road and it was very well mannered. But that throttle, that thing scares the shit out of me. I thought I'd try turning on the cruise control that I heard so much about but just moving my hand a little bit to position my thumb made the bike shoot out...I'd be terrified to stand on the pegs with such a sensitive throttle. Is this something you guys have adjusted to? I mean it must be, since you're not dead, right?

    I liked it a lot, I'm just not sure I like it 19K worth, which after tax prep and bags is what I'd be looking at.
  9. Telman

    Telman Ulysses Member

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    Test rode the Explorer today, spent probably 90 minutes all up. Throttle is a little sensitive but it took me less than 30 minutes or so and I did not even notice it. (I am used to a Speed Triple that also has a very sensitive throttle.) I personally would not change the throttle. The fuelling was superb.

    Rode mostly road, with some gravel. Turned the traction control off, and also used the less intrusive traction control mode.

    Gearbox delightful, clutch great and brakes superb. Can dive a little under hard braking but no more than any other adventure bike except the GS1200 BMWs. I simply could not detect any indication of it being shaft drive. Bike handles very well, suspension is a little firm on the smaller bumps but again compared to the Speed Triple was great.

    The bike was fitted with an Arrow muffler but it was very quiet. Engine is simply superb with heaps of low down and midrange torque, with plenty of top end, if you want to fang it. Engine does not seem as growly as the 1050 but has some of the idiosyncratic noises, one expects from a Triumph triple.

    I have no doubt this bike is a superb all roads tourer. I definitely want one!
  10. rhinoWERX

    rhinoWERX Crikey mate!

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    Comparing the throttle on the TE 1200 with the throttle on the other bikes we have in the garage - it's like comparing an electronic keyboard with a manual typewriter.

    Adjust your input accordingly.

    It's the way of the future man :D
  11. moggi1964

    moggi1964 Tiger Keeper

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    Great report.

    Not sure why your dealer was messing about with the buttons, the ABS and TC automatically reset to on when the bike is turned off and on again! Maybe he was trying to impress you ;)

    The throttle is something you adapt to (well most have so far though one guy did sell after 440 miles) and on the Triumph Explorer forum (tiger-explorer.com) a few people have tried a 'special grease' which dampens the action.

    Sounds like you had fun :clap
  12. Voluhzia

    Voluhzia iExplorer

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    I don't have problem with throttle. On the commute I started using the Cruise Control more often, and once returning to throttle find it too heavy :)


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  13. MooMoo

    MooMoo Adventurer

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    I went to my local dealer on Saturday to see when they might be getting some Explorers in. When I first started talking to them a few months ago they told me they expected them around mid May, then it moved to early June. Now that it is Mid June I thought they would have them in or coming soon. NOT!!! They do not expect any until maybe December. That sucks. I have been lusting for this bike for a while now. What do I do now? I have to decide do I go buy the Super Tenere, which I know a local dealer has, or do I travel out of town. I like the Triumph a better but I have no complaints about the Yamaha either. What do you think? Is this bike worth a 2-4 hour road trip to get or should I just stay local and get he Tenere?

    Tampa Jim, if you read this which dealer did you use in the Tampa/St. Pete area and how were they to deal with.

    Thanks.
  14. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    No bikes till December ? Sounds like a crap dealer to me...
  15. Voluhzia

    Voluhzia iExplorer

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    Not correct. Each dealer put up a schedule for deliveries. Mine had on in late April - that's DEMO now, then mid-May - I got it, then mid-June - sold to a guy from VA, the next one is scheduled for.... October... then... December. Total 5 bikes scheduled for my dealer in 2012


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  16. Voluhzia

    Voluhzia iExplorer

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    On the other note. Plan a trip - its an Adventure bike, why not start it right from a dealership 500 miles away :)


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  17. markbvt

    markbvt Long timer

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    +1

    My dealer does fairly small volume, this being a fairly low-population area, and he didn't have any Tiger Explorer preorders, yet he still got in a Tiger Explorer a couple of weeks ago.

    That said, based on the experience with the Tiger 800, my dealer also thought it would take a lot longer to get in an Explorer, so maybe MooMoo's dealer is just being unnecessarily pessimistic.

    --mark
  18. nwbiker

    nwbiker Been here awhile

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    I know that only dealers that had at least one of their techs go through an Explorer-specific training seminar could receive bikes at first. Makes sense to me that they want to make sure the shop can set up and maintain the Explorer with its special features.

    Maybe your dealer hasn't had any of their employees trained yet.
  19. Lightisright

    Lightisright Adventurer

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    I've got just over 700 miles on my Explorer now. My last tank was about half riding fairly aggressively on back roads in SE Ohio, and some highway droning with the cruise at 76mph indicated (72 per my garmin forerunner 405 gps watch). I kinda made a wrong turn getting back to 77 to head home. First the miles to empty went to zero, then a couple of miles later the last bar disappeared. I'm pretty sure this was at 212 miles. I finally found a gas station at 218 miles. The bike took 4.88 gallons for just over 44mpg. Not sure I could have made it much farther. 44mpg seems to be pretty typical so far. One tank was 42 I think. The computer has been showing about 2mpg better.

    Got home late, hopped off in the garage and saw a full, big, rusty nail sticking THROUGH my rear tire. In went in at the edge of the tread and out the sidewall. Tire was still holding air. I pulled it out the next morning. I got lucky that it didn't pierce the liner. Still had 42psi in it. This would have been an ideal time for the inflation sensors. I have them, just that the dealer couldn't figure out how to get the bike to recognize them. I took the bike anyway and they are supposed to call me when they figure out a solution. At the time it was late in the day so they called a couple of west coast dealers who apparently have had the same issue. This dealers demo bike (with launch pack) came all set up so mine was the first one they've actually had to install. Still.....
  20. Rob Dirt

    Rob Dirt More or less in line

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    My dealer is 180 miles away form me. He has sold 2 TEX already. And has 2 more for sale. A blue & a black.
    Capital Sports Center in Jackson, MS. (601)977-0044
    Buy one & ride it to that dealer for the 500 mile service. :lol3