The 12X12 build...

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by NortwestRider, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. NortwestRider

    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    I decided to sell the Vstrom after the latest round of electrical problems.This last round seems to be OWNER induced and I did find the problem and fix it ( after over a month !!) BUT it showed me that these bikes are to complicated for me to diagnose and fix in the field,and I am hoping to go RTW with this rig in the future.The GS850's are know to be almost bullet proof and they are also know to have some electrical problems,but they are known problems with know fixes,also I have had 4 of them now and I really like them.They are very simple,carbs,aircooled,shaft drive,full frame,and no computers !!..So I have had the GS for about 3 weeks now and found the things that I needed to address BEFORE attaching the car.1..BRAKES,the front brakes SUCK !!,There are some cool fixes for this problem like ZX calipers and CBR rotors etc,but those fixes cost $$ that I don't have alot of.So I decided to do steel braided lines,EBC pads and a flush of the 30 year old fluid.2..SUSPENSION,The rear shocks were shot,so I had a pair of KZ550 airshocks left over from a chopper project but I was missing the air fittings and crossover tube.I found another pair on Ebay for $19.00 that had the fittings and tube.The Ebay shocks leaked air out of the seals BUT the fittings and tube were good so I put them on my shocks and they hold air !!.I did get the old saddle bags off ( for sale !!) and did a oil change and fixed a couple of other little problems.Tomorrow I hope to start making the new bag mounts and sidecar mounts.

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    I'm putting the stock ( higher ) bars back on,so this line will not be bent like this anymore !!
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  2. boxertwin

    boxertwin Long timer

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    Are you building a new car or mounting the VStrom car on there?
  3. NortwestRider

    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    I am mounting the Vstrom car on it,I love that car and so far it has proven to be reliable, I bounced it with over 150# in it offroad for over 500 miles and not even a loose bolt !!.I bought a rather unique fairing for the bike that should match up well with the car.
  4. NortwestRider

    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    So I only got about 2 hours in the shed today but I did get the saddle bag mounts started.I made them so I can remove the right bag and carry a 5 gallon gas can in it's place.I plan on making a dead horse run next summer ( or the summer 2013) and need the extra gas for that.I also fixed the speedo,the screws that hold the face plate on came out and the face plate spin around.It's a sealed unit so I had to cut it in half and fix the face plate and glue it back together.

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  5. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Cool project, but surprised by the switch to a 30 year old bike. I did see your reasons, though, so good luck.

    I know nothing about sidecars, but I do know that the old UJM frames have lots of flex and am wondering how handling will suffer from the stiffer, modern box frame of the strom. And yes..brakes...those might be important.

    Do you think you'll miss the lighter weight (over 100 pounds) and 30 hp of the strom? Would a new/used wiring harness solve the problem with the strom??


    Anyway, Great stuff!
  6. NortwestRider

    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    I had to make a full subframe for the strom so it took all the force from the sidecar.to tell the truth the gs feels
    Much lighter than the strom and the power is much smoother builds from idle with a flat powerband.the last problem with the strom seems to be my fault ( no relay iny LED lights circuit) but it showed me that even small problems can be hard to find and fix with computers a FI !!!.I had the strom shut off at 70 mph more than once with a low battery, not much fun !!!!!.
  7. RAGBrian

    RAGBrian jonesing for a ride

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    Ah, yes. The simpler days of motorcycling. Can't say I blame ya for being able to fix the bike with a few basic tools. I like the old bikes myself. I am looking forward to the GS build as you put the car on it. They were great bikes and I remember thinking that while pouring over moto mags looking for my first bike. Good luck on the sale.
  8. TouringDave

    TouringDave Tri Moto Veritas

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    Looking good Alan :clap
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    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    Thanks Dave,I hope to be riding it by this time next week!!!.
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    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    So I decided to not rush this build.I keep finding more stuff to do everytime I sit down next to the bike.My new plan is to have it ridable by Dec 1st.I got the saddle bag frame done today ( it took alot longer than I thought) and started repairing the fairing.I also fixed the start button and cleaned up some wiring in the headlight bucket.
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    And here is a sneak peak at the fairing,I have a cool idea for it..stay tuned !!
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    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    Hey Dave.

    Hows the front end going ?????????:evil
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    Hiya Alan, front end is on (boy! does that make a difference!) and having new brake lines made tomorrow morning, then, hopefully, a new mount for the steering damper made tomorrow night.

    Missed out on a really great rally this weekend as I didn't get the Strom back from workshop in time to leave.

    Had the regulator/rectifier and alternator replaced. $$ Ouch!! :eek1

    Otherwise life is good! :clap
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    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    After about 100 miles or so you will not believe that you rode it WITHOUT the leading legs.!!!!:huh.I got the saddle bag rack done and mounted today,all I need to do is buy another ammo can.I finally got started on the sidecar mounts today and it looks like I can use a good bit of the old subframe from the strom..This week I'm picking up a set of LEADING axle forks off of a GSL suzuki,so hopefully they will give me enough trail reduction.I do plan on building a set of leading link forks next year.
  15. toastmuncher

    toastmuncher I be new round here! Ello

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    it may be worth putting her together with 'slightly' more lead if you plan leading links in the near future. Having the front wheel spindle moving 4" or so further forward may result in the lead you set up now being too little later on. If the 9-12'' lead is something you regard as a good start, its what I use, being closer to the 12'' end of the scale may save hassle later on when the L/Ls go on the bike. The gs has a long wheelbase anyway, L/Ls will stretch that further still, so more lead than the strom had may well be in order from the off.
    Just thinking aloud and feel free to disregard my opinion. :lol3
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    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    Thanks for the info MR Toast,that was something I had
    Not thought about.I had 10 inches of lead on the strom and because of the lower mounts being fixed on the car i can only go about 10.5 inches on the GS or they will hit the foot peg so I hope it's enough.OR I would have to go about 15 inches and then the front of the car would be a foot or more in front of the bike!!!.
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    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    Bought some new forks the other day.I got a complete set of LEADING axle forks from a GS1100.This SHOULD make the steering alot lighter ( in theory!!) so we will see how it go's.

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    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    HUMMMMMMMM,These give me some Ideas !!!!!!!!:evil:evil

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    NortwestRider TRIPOD ADVENTURER !!

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    Making progress slowly but surley.I have been working on it almost everyday but everything takes soooooo long,and I keep finding more stuff to do.I have finished the saddle bag mounts and bags,the sidecar mounts,and rear suspension.I have been working on the fairing ( fiberglassing and filler).Tonight I got started on the front fork swap,and should have that done tomorrow,and at that point the sidecar and bike can become ONE !!.I seem to have a leak in my rear air shocks but I can't find it:cry.
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    RedBean25 Been here awhile

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    The leak is between the ears!!:ear:deal:evil

    I kid I kid. Glad to see things are progressing Alan. Hopefully I'll actually get to see this one. The other one was gone before I could see it.