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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by dfhmotor, Nov 10, 2011.
the japanese stick together in what they produce.
dual-sports are found in 250 and 650 sizes.
And the DRZ400-KLX400 is what?
Honda can be the first to go 450 and everyone else will follow.
on the way out as it's old tech carb in a new epa FI world.
things change in 2013.
the old japanese DS had a great run.
An upgrade from the DR350, from the time of the TT 350, KLX 300 and XR400.
I can just imagine a 450 version though...
All the weight of a 650 with the power of a 250.
So, expect a CRF650L to be forthcoming as well?
One can only beg/pray/plead/threaten/etc...
It was printed on their own Honda brochure.
To clarify my previous post, in the brochure it was written that the bike will be available in the summer of 2012 as an early 2013 release.
If the bike does make it to the U.S. and doesn't weight a lot it will be a fun bike with a few mods to make it peform well in the dirt. Only time will tell if it makes it here we can guess all we want.
Thats the buzz but its supposed to be a 700 based engine. We can only hope.
The one with the Bajillion dollars worth of bling looked Mo Betta
I think Honda, and most of the other manufacturers, are clearly focusing on markets outside of the US, where small bikes are popular. Take India for example, small bikes sell like hotcakes.... CBR250R.... Ninja 250R... all hot sellers there. They realize those markets are where the growth is, so they build bikes for those markets, and will probably still import them to the US to see if they sell.
It would be sweet to see a CFR650L or something like that though... the XR650L is an old design, and probably due for replacement.
i agree with that. in mexico it's the 125 class where all the action is.
it used to be that size in india, but as people are making more $, the 250 class is now the hot class.
it's no different on how our 1000+cc bikes get bigger in size only for most of the world it's 125 to 250cc shift.
it's just a mfg. shift in what people are buying (world-wide) & what sells the most, as the 450 is enormous in most places. the 450 dirtbikes will not go away as those are designed for wealthy nations but the dual-sports are gonna be great little 250 motors (or 650s for once again the wealthy nations).
yes honda builds/sells different bikes for different markets but this 250 seems to be a world-wide build like they do with the CRV. this is mexico http://www.honda.mx/motos/doble-proposito/
right now the FI 150 is the hot bike to buy if you have the $. my guess is this new 250 will replace both the 250 and maybe even the 400.
many have discovered with the wr250r how good & fun a 250 can be. ktm 450-500 and such are niche market bikes and don't represent what the world as a whole can afford to buy. whether we like it or not the meat of future dual-sport class bikes are gonna be 250 & 650 class thumpers.
One thing Honda didn't seem to "learn" when researching the development of a bike like this.... the need for a larger fuel tank. Looks like this bike will have the standard 2 gallon tank that most of these dual sport bikes come with. It would be so nice if they'd go ahead and put a 3.5-4 gallon tank on them from the factory! This isn't a motocross bike, so why put such a small tank on it?!?!?
if the CRF250L would have been available a few years ago I would not have bought the CRF230L. Despite the fact that the CRF230L was a great little bike as mentioned earlier I used it also as a scooter with some dirt bike abilities, like off the pavement down the pavement and so. Since I was living in the Philippines for 5 years this was my daily commuter to work and go around. The quality of the CRF230L was far far above the local produced XR200, which started to rost after 6 month. The quality was really superior. But my CRF230L was build in Japan.
Since I moved to Thailand a few month ago I checked the availabilities of 250cc Dual Purpose bikes and the only one was the KLX250S FI which I bought. I am quite happy with that bike. But if the CRF250L would have been available I would have probably be bought the CRF. Never mind about the price difference, the KLX is priced around 4,850 USD. The CBR250 is only priced at around 3,800 USD. And I guess the CRF250 will be close to that price in Thailand.
As I heard the CRF250L is mainly produced for the Asian market. So if the bike will be available in the US or not and if - when is a big question.
Another thing why I think my choice of the KLX was the right one for now is that the CRF250 is a brandnew bike and it may hard to get some aftermarket accessories like a saddle, a rear rack or a muffler for it. And that is all available for the KLX.
So for now I think I am ok, evenso I always loved my little red one's from Honda. Also I could not resist having a red one again...
and of course for the KLX I was able to get a great comfortable Sargent seat and a great rear rack...
much better then the small original saddle
I'm confident we'll see it here in Oz, been seeing those new CBR250R's everywhere lately.
It looks like most of the new models are on the honda website, but so far not the 250L
Yeah they suck at making WR's Klx's CrfX's especially the DR's man they are the heaviest and can't even call themselves a MXer what are they thinking in Japan? The world is full of motorcycling Morons everywhere on ebay, but when they log off... they go outside filling the atmosphere with CO2.. and spend hours doing stuff knows what. Drives me nutz
The styling is even a bit like the road Cbr250 mini VFR1200 lookalike. I kinda like that design similarity..
Nice bike. I wish we could buy the KLX250S with FI. Would be nice to have the WR250R, CRF250L and KLX250S FI to choose from. Right now, we only get the blue bike.
Says who? The DR at least weighed less than 300lb curb, and could run both dirt and highway on the same sprockets. It was also simple.
Kuyaoli did you find that seat in BKK? I'm currently in Chang Mai on a trip thru SE Asia and would love to swap seats!