The $22k Joyride

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Snivly Dweeb, Oct 15, 2013.

  1. MotoTex

    MotoTex Miles of Smiles

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    Laws are just squiggly lines on paper. They are not animate. They can do nothing in and of themselves. Well, other than make those who would be unwilling to take steps on their own feel good about having "someone else" keep the world safe for them.

    A common mindset, born from mutual respect, knowledge, and understanding of the risks and rewards is the only thing that will ever make a difference.

    When our popular media glorifies the outlaw lifestyle it becomes attractive to impressionable minds. They imitate it, hoping for the reward their "heros" get.

    We are what we eat, they say, and it is doubly true of our minds. What we feed our thoughts influences how we will perceive the world.

    I don't think folks give full credit to this, and put a constant flow of data into their brains which simply won't deliver the experience they are led to want.

    People grow up "training" their minds on Grand Theft Auto and such. Is it any wonder that they behave the way they do? Is this not an extension of the game that brought them so much fun?
  2. bwalsh

    bwalsh Long timer

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    This^^^



    Not this^^^

    Its people with your mentality who feel entitled to do whatever the f^*k they want on what they deem as Their(the pubic's) land and wind up screwing it up for everyone else. The OHV area here has so many idiots who can't keep on the trails. They'll be the first to cry the blues about how the big bad gobermint is oppressing them if it the place gets shut down.


    :poser You've been drinking way too much tea.

    My take on motorcyclists(or any road user) who do such stupid things on public roads? Lock the f@*kers up and throw away the key's. :deal
  3. waveydavey

    waveydavey happy times!!

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    No one said that there should not be ANY traffic laws. :norton
  4. waveydavey

    waveydavey happy times!!

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    So. No more wheelies, anytime anywhere? What have you been drinking?
  5. windmill

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    You're free to do wheelies as much as you like, just not on public roads. :deal
  6. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    so your opinion is screw safety, obey the law? not being allowed to wheelie or stand up is a safety hazard. if you don't understand this you need to write more and type less. as someone who's been riding for 30 years on and off road I simply can't imagine obeying such an asinine blanket law. if they rewrite the laws to make more sense I have no problem obeying them. How about putting something in the verbage that says no wheelies beyond X amount of feet and no standing beyond X amount of yards ? at least that would make sense
  7. windmill

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    The Washington state riders manual states that standing, shifting weight and raising the front wheel is the appropriate course of action to clear an obstacle or hazard, that's totally different from recreational wheelies on the freeway.

    It's disingenuous to justify one because of the other. If its truly illegal when its a safety issue, then it needs to be addressed.
  8. Pecha72

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    This is golden... :rofl

    Actually I don´t mind wheelies, even on public roads, IF the place, where you do that, is selected wisely (read: very quiet).

    But there is quite often the “show-off” factor involved, so it gets done at places, where there´s lots of people and other traffic (and cops) nearby. Which is exactly the wrong place to do it, and that´s where all the trouble comes from.
  9. waveydavey

    waveydavey happy times!!

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    Look, I am free to do whatever the fuck I want. It just gets expensive sometimes. :lol3
  10. Earth Rider

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    No one is ever going to get a ticket for doing a small wheelie over an object. Ever. Why even talk about it?
  11. SgtDuster

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    Because some like to act as victims just to have a reason to whine and spit about how the government is trying to control their life?
  12. viverrid

    viverrid not dead yet

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    WTF are you talking about? There are a whole bunch of items in the statute he posted, describing fines and jail time.

    You sov cit types are pathetic.
  13. viverrid

    viverrid not dead yet

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    Nah, they are just saying that it is unfair bureaucratic oppression when those laws are enforced against them.
  14. SgtDuster

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    One more time

    :deal
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    He's in agreement with you.

    google sovereign citizen (sov sit) if you want a laugh, its narcissism defined.
  16. SgtDuster

    SgtDuster Long timer

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    I know, my post was to support viv's comment
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    Actually I ride with a guy who wheelies all over the place. He doesn't blatantly speed thru traffic breaking multiple laws over and over though. :deal

    I have some real good Corn in the liquor cabinet. Now I'm going to have to go drink some. :1drink


    Its the "f*#k everybody else, we're going to do whatever the f*#k we want" attitude these punks have that is what I take issue with.

    Take it to the track, not the public highways. :deal
  18. bwalsh

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    "Wheelies save lives"!

    :poser

    Poping a wheelie to get over an obstruction is perfectly acceptable as is standing. Hell, I stand riding on gravel roads a lot.

    You're comparing one minor infraction that may get you pulled over to a group who broke multiple laws, multiple times, evidently on camera. There's a slight difference. If you don't understand this you need to read more and type less.
  19. bwalsh

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    Case in point. :lol3
  20. MotoTex

    MotoTex Miles of Smiles

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    For you and SgtDuster, those statutes clearly state that they apply to those either holding a DL, or, those required by that chapter to hold one. Which is nobody.

    I've taken this to court, with three hearings over the span of several months. They spent a lot of time and money, hired a court reporter, etc, and finally threw in the towel. They couldn't get past arraignment to show the court even had jurisdiction to hear the case.

    I don't know of any better way to prove this, else I would have done it that way.

    The fact remains that they failed to prosecute, much less win their case.

    Sorry that this doesn't jive with your personal religious beliefs. :D

    I stand by what I have found to be true in the courts.

    You can believe whatever you want to, that is the nature of religion, after all. Belief in something which cannot be proven.