The 650 Dakar Thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by underwaterguru, Mar 10, 2009.

  1. nomad5326

    nomad5326 Xventurous

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  2. Linusp3

    Linusp3 Been here awhile

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  3. manybike

    manybike Omnipresent

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    The PO of my 07 Dakar installed some kind of aftermarket signal minder thingy...the farkle from hell!
    The PO told me that the OEM flasher should be on the bike and I only have to unplug the aftermarket one...ha..aargh.
    I have searched the BMW parts fiche and also looked through the BMW shop manual to find the location of the flasher relay...nothing I have found matches what I see on my bike.
    Here is a photo of my panel by the steering head...can anybody identify the flasher unit?
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    Here is a photo of the offending malfunctioning farkle, has wires with plugs in both ends...where do these wires and plugs go?
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    This is frustrating as hell!
  4. Capt. REDBEARD

    Capt. REDBEARD TWECO

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    only one way to find out.

    the blinker flasher is in the first picture. not sure which it is but the answer is over on the chain gang FAQs if you look for info on LED blinkers.
  5. ferals5

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    It will be either the yellow or black one:D.
  6. manybike

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    Those two a pretty small...maybe one of them is. I have been on 650.com (chain gang) and not one photo or diagram matches what mine looks like. Did they change the signal flasher in 2007?
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    They are only the size of a normal relay, can't imagine they changed from the single spark. The LED flasher will run either LED's or globes. Be gentle when you pull it up as there's not alot of extra wire on them.

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  8. Parx400

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    Strange mine only had one Thing in th middle. It was the fasher and it was bigger than those two.
  9. manybike

    manybike Omnipresent

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    None of my relays look like that, they are smaller and the numbers on any of my relays do not match the BMW part number I was given.
  10. manybike

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    Yeh, that is what has me puzzled, I have two relays in the area where there should be just the flasher relay. Mine is an 07 Dakar, I have seen pics of the relay box right up to 06 but they look different.
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    mine only had one relay where you have two in the pic. mine was a dark brown transparent color flasher.
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    What year is yours? trying to determine if they did something different in 07 with the flasher relay.
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    Don Coyote Long timer

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    What is the minder supposed to do?
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    Does your bike have ABS? Maybe its a relay for that. My one flasher relay took up the whole space.
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    It is an aftermarket device made by Kisantech that automatically cancels your signal lights after a certain amount of flashes, it also makes your signals flash as you apply the brakes.
    Mine seems to be sensitive to moisture, even driving in fog causes it to malfunction, the signal lights will come on by themselves and I cannot make it stop, very dangerous in my opinion.
    The worst most useless farkle I have ever seen...going back to OEM is proving to be harder than I thought.
  16. manybike

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    Mine is non-ABS.
    I may be getting close to an answer on f650.com (chain gang)
    My bike does have the 4 way flasher option, this could change what you see in the relay tray.
    Anyone out there have the emergency flasher option? If so, your signal flasher may be different than a stock bike.
    Talking to the local BMW parts desk they only list one type of flasher relay but now I suspect there is a different one for bikes with the OEM emergency flasher option.
  17. kubiak

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    mine is a 02 dakar
  18. kubiak

    kubiak Long timer

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    i forgot to mention its a non abs model too.
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    Its the black one.. mine gone south last week. Remove the black relay and jump the connection with a piece of wire. signal works but will not flash. In Singapore we call it a condenser and my mechanic friend told me any two prong relay will work. does not have to be oem. i bought a jap bike relay for $5 and it works. Took some time do connect it back. wires are PITA short.
    hope this help...
  20. kubiak

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    i went with aftermarket turn signals on my dakar and they wouldnt blink so i bought the cheap 2 dollar 2 prong flasher from pepboys and it works great. been using the cheepies on all my bikes and they work great.