The 650 Dakar Thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by underwaterguru, Mar 10, 2009.

  1. kubiak

    kubiak Long timer

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    yea one of my buddies has a old ktm 620 i think? that thing sounds like its going to blow up!
  2. tomatoe333

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    The older 620/640 LC4 motors are paintshakers. That's one reason I bought the Dakar instead of a 640 Adventure. The other being the fact that the Dakar came along first. :lol3
  3. isgila

    isgila Been here awhile

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    Got to work to relocate my battery under the seat. It seems that sycl batt A123 4.6aH fit snugly in the tool compartment.
    I did not have to grind off the crossbar like kubiak did as he was using the sycl 08 cell type. I place the batt and the anderson connector in a waterproof mini bag. The extra 8awg needed was a bout a meter each for the relocation.
    I would have ordered from Jim for the extra wires but funds was running low. So I made one up. Sorry Jim.
    Anyway thanks for the excellent batt Jim and the advice kubiak.
    :freaky
  4. kubiak

    kubiak Long timer

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    nice work! got the weight down and and lower too.
  5. grimstone

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    Hello,
    First I recently bought a 2001 F 650 GS. Pictures in the end of the following link:
    http://f650.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1064
    I'm not quite sure that I show post this here but here goes:

    Hello,
    I just bought a complete ABS system off ebay (ABS Pump, brake tubes, master pistons, callipers, everything related to the ABS system). I have to buy a wiring harness for the ABS+heated grips, the abs switch and maibe the instrument cluster cable with the ABS bulb but not sure about this one, the frond ABS ring and sensor. No much. I intend to retrofit it to my motorcycle witch came without ABS option. Questions:

    1. Can anyoane here help with that harness at a good price, maybe from a wrecked vehicle?
    2. Does anyoane know if a recoding of the BMS-C is needed? I studied a lot the firmwares of the BMS-C and I found no option in any of the firmware/hardware regarding with or without ABS coding. I suspect that when I connect the ABS computer it will comm with the BMS-C and activate ABS function.

    Waiting for some tips....
    Picture attached of the system I bought:
    http://f650.ro/forum/download/file.php?id=901&mode=view


    Thanks
  6. GSBS

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    I hate to burst your bubble, but IMO the ABS system on my 2003 Dakar was one of the worst-performing I've seen on a motorcycle. I ended up ripping out all the ABS stuff (lines, modulator, etc.) which saved over 10 pounds of useless weight and I no longer have to turn off the ABS before riding on a dirt or gravel road, something that was a real PITA. Now the brakes are easy to bleed and work just fine, stopping me when I want to stop. I haven't once missed the ABS or wished it was back on the bike.

    Before you put more money and lots of time into this project I highly recommend you find an F650GS or Dakar with ABS and ride it 1) on a gravel road; 2) in wet grass so you can see just how poorly the system works.

    After living with this piss-poor ABS system for nearly 70K miles on my Dakar, and now almost 10K without ABS, I can't see how anyone would want the ABS.

    My 2ยข
  7. 1911fan

    1911fan Master of the Obvious

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    Huh what? What the hell would you want to do that for? I'm sure, besides the above poster and myself, you'll get a lot of posts asking why you'd want to do that. ABS on bikes is handy if it's there, but there's No Way I'd try retrofitting a bike with it. I bought a used 2002 Dakar that has ABS, and I would already have it removed if I wasn't so lazy. My 990 Adventure had it, and I can't say it ever 'saved' me, and on both bikes it's a PITA on dirt.
    Why would you want to spend a lot of time and money retrofitting a system that adds weight and complexity? If you're doing it to be safer, forget it. Motorcycling is inherently dangerous, and if you get hurt doing it, odds are that ABS would not have saved you from yours or others' stupidity.
    Put that shit back on ebay and congratulate yourself on being clever. Go ride!


    1911fan
  8. isgila

    isgila Been here awhile

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    +1 on ripping off the ABS...
    i was going over a hump on a road when the car in front of me suddenly jammed brake.
    The road had a few sand due to some construction nearby. Slam my brakes, ABS kicks in.. The bike will not stop and crash.. Paid the driver for damages and rip off my ABS the following week..
  9. Mr.Dabalina

    Mr.Dabalina Been here awhile

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    Taking the abs was already on my winter to do list. Hopefully new pegs and a seat concept seat as well. That is if Santa doesn't miss my house.
  10. BeachGuy

    BeachGuy Lost in paradise!

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    +1 on the Seat Concept recover. Recently finished a 8200 mile trip in 27 days. If I had not changed the original seat over to Seat Concept I would have sold the bike on the road and bought a flight home.

    Granted with this many miles in that short of time I didn't ride anything but asphalt. So I cannot speak of off-road use with a Seat Concept cover.

    I have a GS but ordered the Dakar seat cover, it's 1.5 inches taller in the foam than a GS and I weight in at 280 lbs. My back side needed all the help it could get, plus the family reproductive parts didn't get squashed up against the faux gas tank when braking or sliding forward with normal driving.

    As for the ABS on my bike, it ain't broke so I'm not messing with it. However when that day comes, it's gone.
  11. kubiak

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    made some rear side cover gaurds.
  12. kubiak

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    the other side.
  13. Trike Flyer

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    your bike looks awesome.

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  14. kubiak

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    Thanks Trike Flyer!
  15. Gravel Seeker

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    Captain America panels (rear)

    Is it possible to sand down the clear coat and remove the stickers ? I'd want to re-paint them afterwards (rattle can), so they can't be in too bad a shape after the stickerectomy.

    Who's tried and succeeded ?
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    +1 Looks almost TW/farm bike with the rear tire.
    The colour scheme works for me!:clap
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    nomad5326 Xventurous

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    On the Capt America the stickers are under clear coat. I heat gunned mine off and then sanded away to get smooth. It took a while but turned out nice. I just use flat black plastic paint. I've some two this way. I ordered reflective replacement stickers from got2moto.com
  19. kubiak

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    +1 Looks almost TW/farm bike with the rear tire.
    The colour scheme works for me!:clap[/QUOTE]
    its the tws big brother!
  20. kubiak

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    i have done a few sets and i just used a da air sander with 180 grit and knocked off the clear and decals but you can hand sand and do the same thing just more work. then prime and sand to get imperfections out then paint.