The 650 Dakar Thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by underwaterguru, Mar 10, 2009.

  1. ar1814

    ar1814 Been here awhile

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    Other than that, I would definitely buy the first one.
  2. Airhead11

    Airhead11 n00b

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    Can any of my Dakar brothers help me troubleshoot why my 03, won't start? I'm repairing her after getting rear ended. She started after that but has now been sitting for two months and when I put the key in the dash clock comes on, but I get nothing else.. Battery is good, fuses are good. I've only been able to locate one fuse box- is there another one? Before the accident she would occasionally have trouble starting- I've read this sometimes happens with the Dakar. Today I'm thinking about taking out the starter relay and seeing if that's bad. Any advice is greatly appreciated!!
  3. Don Coyote

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    It is the remote reservoir for the shock which i've heard is there because of the ABS equipment. If you've read the last few pages, you might gather that the ABS probably isn't something you'd want to pay extra for. I'm not convinced it is worth ripping out unless you plan to use it mostly off road, but then again i wouldn't vouch for it's effectiveness either.

    As a tall rider (6'5") the height was a specific reason i sought out a Dakar. Everything feels very comfortable to me, except that in the normal riding position my knees sit against the ridges on the side of the faux gastank. If i put my toes on the pegs and bend my ankles hard, the knees nestle in much more comfortably. I keep meaning to do a peg relocation to fix this, but don't have the budget...
  4. Aquatic

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    I'm inclined to go with the first one. The 6K miles difference is nothing on these engines.
    By the sounds of it the extras on bike 1 will come in very handy with your eventual intended use. And most probably worth more than $1k anyway.

    No2 sounds like it has been thrashed a bit!

    my 2c
  5. BeachGuy

    BeachGuy Lost in paradise!

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    I'm looking for some advice about valve lash. Doing a major service on my 34,000 km 2001 F650 GS and shot this video this afternoon.

    Question 1: Is the amount of cam chain lash normal in this video. There was no pressure on the cam lobes during this video.

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    Question 2: Should I have had the cam lobes putting pressure on the valves. If I have pressure on the valves there is no slop in the chain.

    This bike has ABS and it looks as if it will take an Act of Congress (reads as Balance the Budget) to get the cam chain tensioner out from it well engineered place between the engine and ABS module.

    Thanks for any help in advance.
  6. nomad5326

    nomad5326 Xventurous

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    Picked up some LED turn signals, well cause I keep breaking mine. When I touched the wires to check continuity/correctness the bulbs light up but won't blink when i use the switch......other (non-broken side) works fine. PO did install a LED flasher tail light. Are there issues w/LED (Relay/etc)?
  7. WayneC

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    THe cam chain tensioners can stick, they changed the design at some point in production, suggest you start by taking a look at that, there are pics and info on it over at f650
  8. WayneC

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  9. nomad5326

    nomad5326 Xventurous

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    :-( Thanks Wayne.....man they looked cool too!
  10. WayneC

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    Stick with it, grab an LED flasher from CustomLED or others they are low cost and the diode set up for the dash lamp is easy. I have run LED for a very long time with front indicators in the hand guards & they are brighter, more reiiable and dont break in minor falls
  11. GrizzLee

    GrizzLee RubiKon Adventures

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    Hey, that's good to know for us tall folks.

    Everyone, thanks for the responses.

    So the prices being asked are reasonable I suspect?

    Another question....

    Are the plastics interchangeable with regular F650s? Don't stone me here, but I am not a fan of the Dakar colors. If/when I get one of these bikes, I was thinking of trading plastics with someone for another color (red or yellow). Has anyone done this? I figure it could be repainted, but I am sure a regular GS person might want them to make stealth Dakar or be a poser :1drink

    Ok, I'll sit back and wait for the hate mail to fill my inbox

    Thanks..
  12. LoJack

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    I thought option #2 was a little high, for a stock bike that had been used off road. Not sure how much Jessie's are, but a good rack and pannier system is at least a grand. Add the PIAA's and crash bars... Sounds like a better deal on the other. Mileage like that shouldn't be a worry unless the oil was never changed.

    Plastics are the same, I think, except for the headlight shroud. At least the '01 GS I had was different than my '02 Dakar. You won't get flack from me about it. Took me a while to get used to it, though I have always like the '01 Dakar's black and white checker.
  13. kubiak

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    yea it hink the panels should interchange. try to get close to the same year though, i have a 02 dkar and got some panels off a 05 dakar and it had different emblem grills so it had different location of the emblem holes. i filled in the holes anyway so it didnt matter. i modified my dakar so much you cant really tell what model it is. its your bike you paid for so you should fix it the way you want for sure!
  14. GrizzLee

    GrizzLee RubiKon Adventures

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    I like the way you think.

    Thanks folks.

    I'll let you know if we join the Dakar club soon :thumb
  15. nomad5326

    nomad5326 Xventurous

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    Each bike had mis-matched plastics from 2001-2004. Only one did I repaint to OEM. Hope it helps. Rattlecan is cheap but so is Earl Sheib!

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  16. GrizzLee

    GrizzLee RubiKon Adventures

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    Those look sweet in black. Nice fleet... You should sell me one :evil

    Regards,
  17. Spyker

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    Love the matt black!
  18. Don Coyote

    Don Coyote Long timer

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    I did the indicator light mod for LED signals yesterday. I haven't tried 4 LEDs yet, but when i put it back together it still works at least. Piecing together Radioshack diodes for this was really ugly, i'd strongly suggest getting the premade component online.

    Now i have to figure out how to mount the generic LED signals on the front. Does anyone who has done this have pics/instructions to give me something to work off of?
  19. Gravel Seeker

    Gravel Seeker Thomas

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    Might be that your ignition witch finally gave out (cylinder below the key)
    Try removing it and clean every contact surface to see if that helps. If not you might need a new switch.

    Here's a few pics of how mine looked when I had to replace it last year. Bike's a 2001 (bough new in fall 2002 and had about 41k miles on it when the switch had to be replaced)

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    These look bad and I cleaned them up, but it didn't help

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    Because this was the problem. Filled with crud and actually worn out (cleaning these didn't help either)

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  20. KG6BWS

    KG6BWS Been here awhile

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    Ive been having a problem with my rear brake losing pressure. When I bleed the master cylinder it comes back for a little while, before it loses pressure again and I have to bleed it again. Im thinking its time for a rebuild.

    I found the repair kit for $11 on BikeBandit. Is that all I need??