The 650 Dakar Thread

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by underwaterguru, Mar 10, 2009.

  1. kovrob

    kovrob Adventurer

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    I had to change the original brake line for a longer one. And I not drill the bar for the oem heated grip wires, I moved them inside the handuards. I had to change the throttle cable position too.
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  2. mcgiggle

    mcgiggle Been here awhile

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    kovrob, fantastic idea about using the handguards for the heated grips wiring, how did you convert the throttle side ? Any photos ?
    That's a job i'm going to do in a week or two so any info would be great.

    Cheers
    Pete
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  3. kovrob

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    Currently not available, but I will make some pictures tomorrow.
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  4. bacon

    bacon KZ5TLP

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    WOW what a great job you have done on it.
    I love the way the dash looks.
    Tim
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  5. tmotten

    tmotten Lefthand ride Dutchy

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    Renthal Dakar High for me. Bloody wide which I like. About a metre I think. Meant I lost a bit of slack in the control wiring, but nothing too bad. Just means it's not running along the handle bar anymore, but not in a way that it's problematic.

    kovrob, awesome job on the mods mate. What did you encounter when you did this?

    [​IMG]

    I've got a late model Dakar which has the left side end cap closed. But am thinking of drilling it out to convert it into a single sided exhaust and convert the right hand side into storage like you did (doubt my end cap will be as nice though). You look like you did some more work. Why was that? Any photo's of what came out and what was left in?
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  6. bjtc_brian

    bjtc_brian Oh to ride again....

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    I just bought a 03 Dakar and I have done some searching on here, but couldn't really find what I wanted. I am looking to replace the standard headlight bulb, but would like to get some more light out of it. Without going to HID, what model numbers, etc are there? Also, any info on which is brighter and which are less expensive is a plus.

    Also, if this is the wrong forum, I appologize and will accept the bashing with a smile. I am new here and haven't gotten everything figured out.

    Also, I will post a pic of the bike when I get a chance to take one. The 8" of snow we got on the day we got back from buying the bike is really throwing a wrench in things.
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  7. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    Watch out, the left side (viewed from the back) is the catalytic converter. At least this is where it is on mine (2006 model).
    Lion

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  8. underwaterguru

    underwaterguru Moto shop Adventurer

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    You are in the right place. No bashing with a Dakar. That is what we are all about. I will look forward to what answer we will get so I can add it to the long list of things I need to do.
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  9. HiJincs

    HiJincs Dreamer

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    Waitin' for the answer too. :lurk
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  10. tmotten

    tmotten Lefthand ride Dutchy

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    That's right, but cat is only in the header end of the can. Logically I can't see any reason why opening up that end cap would not convert it into a proper exhaust with in-built cat. It'll possibly be very loud because it may not have a baffle. All depends on the internal ducting inside. I'm hoping the internals are very similar to the older pea shooter design.

    F650.com Pea Shooter Baddle Mod FAQ Write-up

    kovrob may have the answers.
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  11. Lion BR

    Lion BR I'd rather be riding

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    Great. Keep us posted on progress if you go for it.

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  12. ehatcher

    ehatcher Hello? Is this thing on?

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    My Dakar
    Carbon fiber fairings, ohlins, emulators, HID, staintune, techclusion, much lighter than stock
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    Touring in WV last year
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    My Dakar leads a hard life, touring, off road riding etc, however it has been very reliable.

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    I have been trying to decide between keeping this bike and starting over with an Xchallenge. If I keep the Dakar I will lighten it further and do the Yamaha front end. If I go with an X it will be another rally faired bike with a tall windscreen and provison for side cases.

    In any case the Dakar has been a great machine for me, it will ride all day on the highway, works fine on dirt/gravel roads and does mild off road (if a little grudgingly). I have seen guys who are good riders do amazing stuff with it off road but the weight is a bit much for someone at my skill level.

    Eric
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  13. Bigem

    Bigem Long timer

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    I have these babies in my F8, and had the Philips equivalent in my Dakar. They make a truckload of difference and won't cost an arm and leg.

    http://www.twenga.co.uk/offer/5804/4184198052861303319.html

    these are good things as well

    http://cgi.ebay.com/BMW-F650-DAKAR-...hash=item150333131314&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
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  14. kovrob

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    mcgiggle,
    The pictures are here:
    Standby position:
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    Full throttle:

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    tmotten,
    „I'm hoping the internals are very similar to the older pea shooter design.” – yes, it’s same.

    This summer I would like to ride countries where the unleaded fuel is not available, because I must get out the catalytic converter. I don’t have pictures neither from the work, nor from the spares, sorry. The following picture show what are in the canisters:
    [​IMG]

    bjtc_brian,
    I used it once an Osram Nightbreaker halogen (+90%), but his lifetime is very short. Now I use Osram Silverstar with 50% more light and longer lifetime: http://www.osram.com/osram_com/Consumer/Automotive_Lighting/Products/Headlights/SILVERSTAR/index.html
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  15. tmotten

    tmotten Lefthand ride Dutchy

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    So you think drilling out the end cap where the pea shooter would be may be enough? Offcourse the connection pipe will have to be closed off.

    Also, the right hand side which you converted into a storage can seems to have a baffle and all sorts of stuff welded in. Did you have any problems taking out all the innards?

    I've only got basic tools like Dremel, drill and angle grinder mind you.

    FWIW, you can keep the cat while running leaded fuel. It'll just be destroyed, but who needs it anyway. Weight reduction would be the only gain.
    Did you have any trouble pulling it out?
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  16. notmybikemodelname

    notmybikemodelname KOTW is a myth!

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    Once decent dump in gravel or any kind of aggressive dirt and those wires are toast. Also, if you ride at any kind of speed, when you crash or lay the bike down (and we all do) your handguards are going to spin at the connection point on the endof the bar and the wires will be ripped. But enjoy it while it lasts.

    Also, nice mechanical drawings. But I don't get it, that's a lot of work just to get a tiny amount of stirage space and keep the cat con? JUst deep the whole thing in the trash and install a good aftermarkerrt pipe. You'll lose 13 lbs, gain HP, it sounds better and then you can put some real storage on the right side..........if you feel you need to add somethng there.:huh

    Sorry for being a downer, just my thoughts., whatever that's worth.
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  17. JDLuke

    JDLuke Ravening for delight

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    I love what you did with the cockpit. I'd imagine that the higher resulting windscreen position can only help with airflow management for a taller rider, too...
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  18. Bigem

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    Fit up a nice after-market muffler and ebay another one and turn it into a tool canister like the Microns on my Dakar. $300 all up, lost weight, sounded better, went heaps better and no cat to poison.

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  19. kovrob

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    I heard a sound like this - without pea shooter - I hate this very much. I don't write/explain this "sound" - with my English absolutely not :) If you can, hear this before! ;)

    If you not have a welder don't start it. You must saw/drill them on more places! The inner spares are welded. You must drill the canister on these points then welding back the holes.

    "FWIW, you can keep the cat while running leaded fuel. It'll just be destroyed, but who needs it anyway. Weight reduction would be the only gain." - I didn't know this. I believe it may be clogged with the lead.

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  20. kovrob

    kovrob Adventurer

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    Wireing: Yes, maybe it will be destroyed. In this case let this be my largest trouble! :)

    Exhaust: I'm very price sensitive (remember: I'm from Hungary!) This work cost only 20$ (but the deep/agressive sound is priceless! :) ) while the aftermarket slip-on prices are in the sky!