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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by iswoolley, Aug 23, 2004.
Hum hum hum...keep it coming!
Sorry about the accident!
This is going to be interesting
How do you compare AT with bmw GS1150 ? Bmw has more power, but it is no use for me, I'm noob rider. These are two bikes that I think are best for ride around the world
i've never riden the BMW but what i can tell about the AT is, that it's one of the best motorcycles for beginners.
Less havey, less power, it has carbs, not injected...
Check out documentation of our last meeting (Africa Twin Owners Club of Poland) ... lots of vodka and lots of rideing on gravels north eastern Poland
My brother had the BMW GS1100, and comparing to the Africa RD07 I owned at that time, it was a Transatlantic vessel, too heavy and suspenssions didn't work as good as conventional ones off road.
Now I own a GS1200 and an Africa 650, and although GS12 was a very good improvement over the previous heavy GSs (1100 and 1150), and it works surprisingly good out of the road, the Africa is still better for off road use.
No doubt on my side:Africa for offroad use.
Hope I helped you
It's been awhile .......
Gawd I've been F'ing swamped for awhile now ...... anyhow ..... did a little work on the Twin and took some shots, to boot, as well.
I finally went to my fab / welder friend to grind down the washer that Jim welded on to be able to mount the right front turn signal.
We ground it down, repainted it gloss black, and then I finally installed my dash cover. I also swapped bars from the OEM bars that were on it - which were slightly bent .... with some Pro Taper ATV bars ......
Here's just a couple pics .....
The "Gratuitous" shot ......
Shot #1 of the new bars and dash cover ....
Shot #2 ....
I have to say .... with the Pro Tapers on it, I definitely notice better handling with the bike. Call me a n00b but I wouldn't have thought that - granted the OEM bars were slightly bent on the cross bar - but they seemed straight for the sweep, etc ......
Anyhow, the bike is handling much better with the new bars ......
The MRA shield ..... I've been running the bike with this shield for awhile now, and I've done several runs at highway speed ... and I have to say, I really like the shield. This is referring back to a post several months ago - I forget from whom - to report back on the shield. At 75, 80 miles an hour - wonderful. For me, it's just at the right height that it's low enough that it doesn't "obstruct" my vision line, yet with it's height and curvature - there's no buffeting.
The next step is now to add the front cowl guard. Like this;
But it's gonna be a merger between the above ..... and the below.
Cept I won't be doing the bottom containers .....
I like some of the aspects of their setup v.s. the AQ guards.
I'll be hooking up with my fab / welder friend to measure, draw out, and make them. We're also coming up with an idea to re-enforce the top where the guards hook to the turn signal mounts on the front sub-frame. We're thinking about a cross bar between the two sides ......
After that - finally replace the turn signals, which I have, and the old ones are cracking - and add some PIAA 510s - which I have ready and waiting.
Anyhow there it is, and there you have it - and I'll keep ya all posted.
Bike's looking really good, Greg. Did you do the work yourself? Really???
Great looking bike.love the protaper and the windshield.
Thanks I'm really pleased how the bike is coming along since I bought it.
It looked like this when I bought it:
Believe it or not Jim, yes. Cept the grinding part. I've continued to learn more mechanical stuff like swapping throttle assemblies (the 990) - swapping out rims and tires, and gas tanks, etc (the DRZ) - and so swapping out bars was just another thing .....
The only thing that got me when swapping the bars was the damn throttle assem. on the twin. On my 990, 620, and DRZ, there's no plastic insert / cable routing thingy. So when I unscrewed it to remove it from the OEM bars, and broke it open, the plastic routing insert just popped out ..... and I didn't have a chance to look it everything beforehand.
Of course I didn't have the manual with me So my friend and I had to look at it and determine how the cables should properly route looking at the wear lines on the plastic insert. That was the most difficult part.
Long time no hear from you! Been busy eh?
Bile looking good!
I don't see how this can be done in a simple manner if you want it to be robust. Unless you want it for the looks only and to carry your sleeping bag.
I think in order to do it stronger, you should use an additional subframe like on this Rally Tenere:
My AT seem's to attract soom strange People
You're not the only one that has mentioned this ......
I will try and photoshop what I'm thinking to reinforce the front, because yes, the front sub frame won't hold up to a get-off that's for sure .....
When I built my top-crashbars a few years ago, I was told the same thing. Upon pulling the AT apart, I found the original subframe was already severely cracked from normal use (after about 70kkm). I added some bits and pieces to the original subframe to fix and make it stronger. Not the best looking job, but it seems to have worked (now at 130kkm without further repair). On the other hand, only I see it when I service the bike as the subrame is (almost) completely hidden behind the fairings, lights, etc.
Downside to the exercise- the subframe is now much heavier than before, but on a 210kg bike, who notices
Shamless self promotion here!
I've posted a very good condition AT Corbin seat in the Flea market for a good buddy. His butt and the Corbin did not come to an agreement!
Love them or hate them! I like them on my TA's
You did a great job bring you're bike to it's current condition-it looked awful
i love it!
If you are considering the bike for RTW, it depends where you will be traveling. Both are very reliable bikes, but shit happens, and it it does, you will need to have it fixed. I can only speak about Latin America, having lived and traveled extensively in Mexico, and being Ecuadorian and traveled through my country and Colombia on my 2003 Africa Twin. With this preamble, a few facts:
1. I have several friends who have traveled through South America on GS1150's and 1200's and they tell me that if you ever have an electrical issue, the only GOOD BMW shops in all of south America are in Santiago, Chile and one in Sao Paulo. Practically all the other dealerships are overpriced and the staff is not very knowledgable. Mexico only has a good one in Toluca and forget Central America.
2. The AT on the other hand is much more basic in its technology, and hence, easier to work on either on your own, or with some general mechanic.
3. On the $$ side, both parts and service will be much cheaper on the AT, and it's still a hell of a bike. Just look out for the typical issues
Don't get me wrong, I drool over the GS1200 Adventure more than anybody else, but after having heard all of this, I would definitely choose the AT for travel in the underdeveloped world. Cheers, and let me know if you come this way.
So after leaving you with you're genitalia in you're hands, we can continue.
The KTM620 front i bought have thick axle.the original KTM bearing can't seat in the steering head because it's size.so i used XR600/650 bearing.
to do so,i had to machine the axle to fit the bearing.
i took off about 3mm thickness.
after doing so, i stumbled another problem-there was a big gap between the axle and the upper triangle.
So i machined a spacer to fill this gap.
Worked pretty good.
I hope it will stay strong...
Starting to get a gooood shape...
got myself a 320mm disc.
What is left for me to deal with is the calpier issue.
I need to find a KTM 620 caliper.the adapter i already have.
I'll report later on.
Nice fabwork there. Keep us posted. I like to follow your project.