The Africa Twin XRV650 & XRV750 thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by iswoolley, Aug 23, 2004.

  1. Stormforce8

    Stormforce8 Farkle Tart

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    Hey Keith

    I'm afraid the UK is out of stock on the 18" x 2.5" x 32 spoke Excel rims - the last one went to a Finnish inmate on here :evil
    I could sell 'em by the bucketload if we could get hold of them. I'm waiting to hear if Japan has any in their production schedule in the near future, but don't hold your breath.:becca
    Plenty of Excel 21" & 17" rims left though :D

    If you're desperate for an 18" rim, I can probably lay my hands on a Morad 18" x 2.5" x 32 spoke.:wink:

    The Rugged Roads Crashbars for the RD03 / RD04 will be available by the end of this month, both in a Black and a White finish - I'll drop a post in here and on the XRV Forum when they're in stock - meanwhile here's the mock up of what they look like on the RD04:

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  2. Ladder106

    Ladder106 It's a short cut, really

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    Well Done !

    Any target price? International shipping?

    I think I can adapt these to my Transalp framed conversions
  3. Stormforce8

    Stormforce8 Farkle Tart

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    Pricing is aimed at being the same as the RD07/07A ones :D -

    International shipping? - of course :D

    We are moving onto Transalp XL650V bars after the RD03/RD04 bars have completed manufacturing :evil just have to get together with a few of the hardcore Transalp Brotherhood here in the UK to see what works, what doesn't, what's good, etc and get some input from those who'll be using them before we nail down a final design.:wink:
  4. Squily

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    Stormforce: Do you make the crash bars for RD07 to fit the 'fat' tank?
  5. farcall

    farcall Bike-a-holic

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    I asked that question over at XRV.rog yesterday... answer is no. Pity!

    Which fat tank have you got? I'm considering whether to get one myself. Any tips, suggestions or recommendations?
  6. Squily

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    I've got the Touratech. As far as tips: consider carefully. In some ways, it's a one-way street. My situation requires 600km+ fuel range, and it works for me, but it's a comprimise. I can still run 2x ten litre jerry cans which will give me about a 1000km range if needed.

    Pros:
    1. Fuel-range
    2. Relatively compact (compared to some other solutions)
    3. Plastic tank- don't dent when you drop the bike
    Cons:
    1. Very expensive- I got mine second had for a good price and would not have paid the price of a new one. And it's unpainted- you'll need to spend some more mula
    2. More top heavy: Riding and picking the bike up
    3. It's fat and you tend to spread your legs a bit more
    4. If you don't have upgraded front suspension, you'll need it
    5. More fuel = more weight = more tiring to ride in the tight technical stuff and sand
    6. Difficult to get the last few litres out of the tank. you can here it sloshing (and accoring to my calcs, it must have been close to 5l), but every time you run down-hill, you run 'out of fuel'
    7. If you run after market fairings, (such as Boana), they won't fit without modification- that includes the dashboard, etc.
    8. Hard to find items such as crashbars and very limited range
    9. Lot more weight on the front wheel- harder to keep the nose up off-road and on sand

    Like I said- it's a compromise. I need the range. If I had to do it over again, I think I'd rather invest it pannier/rear-seat tanks. But that said, that's my next project. That way I won;t have to use the jerry cans no more.
  7. farcall

    farcall Bike-a-holic

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    Thanks. Some really good points to consider. I really appreciate the time and thought you've put in the reply.

    I'm using my DR to get the 'desert dunes' (eg most of Len Beadell's desert highways and east Pilbara) rides out of my system over the next couple of years. I rarely get to coastal areas these days... a couple of millenia ago I spent my youth visiting Esperance & Albany to tear up the coastal tracks and beaches.

    Anyway, I'm kinda punting that the AT will spell the end of my GSA and become the 'new' dirt highway (eg Gibb River Rd, Tanami, Gt Central, Plenty, Birdsville etc etc) bike in my shed. If the GSA does go, it releases cash to spend on the AT :deal, but I'll ride the AT stock for a while just to be sure it suits me.

    The 43 litres from the TT would ultimately be perfect for me. I'm sort of familiar with the big weights up front because my DR has the safari tank fitted (current capacity 36 litres and growing as it ever so slightly changes shape over time) and of course the 33 litres on the GSA. I could only wish to be lucky enough to pick up a 2nd hand TT so I'm fully expecting to pay the full price. TT also make some crash bars for their tank. More moolah. Tis disappointing to read about not getting the last few litres out the TT tank.

    The rear tanks appeal, but I'm guessing they'll mess around with the mounting of whichever pannier racks I choose. Plus, they cost more than the TT tank! Anyway, I lean towards balancing the weight of extra fuel capacity up front against the luggage/water weight over the back wheel.

    Currently researching which slip on to get for the AT. Mivv is in the lead at the moment but still plenty to go.
  8. Squily

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    We've got a really good allu welder here in Esperance. He's been assisting me in making water-evaporation tanks for work. I've been thinking of asking Reed to make me some allu tanks that will replace the side covers. I know what you're saying about the frames and I'm in the same boat so will be working around that. It wain't going to be pretty, but it'll work.

    I'm trying to streamline the AT as was too wide for bush work in the past. And as you probably know, these coastal tracks of ours are murderous and narrow. I use the XR600 at teh moment with a 20 litre tank, but it's too small for me.

    But she's the perfect long distance traveller and you won;t be sorry. Although a bit lacking in the power-delivery department in standard form,
  9. Noprogram

    Noprogram High Plains Drifter

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    After a long search I finally found an AT and thought I'd post of few pics. They don't come up for sale much over here so when I found a clean low mileage, 97 last year I snapped it up. Since I have a couple of XR600/650 based adventure setups I'd been looking for a something that would be more comfortable with a larger load, reasonable range and road manners as well as capable of doing the back roads of the South Island. I considered other bikes but grew up with Hondas and always liked the look of the XRV even though it's quite an old bike now and heard good stories about them.

    The bike came with an Arrows stainless exhaust which has a nice low note to it as well as the original which weighs a ton. Fitted it out with Touratech engine bars, Barkbusters, Heidenau Adventure Scouts, Scottoiler, Ram mount for the GPS and a 3BR USB socket. Threw in a spare fuel pump on board just in case. Tried fitting some ProTaper fat bars with risers but had some clearance issues with the air filter cover and the bend I used was to low. -Any recommendations?

    Some pics of a trip through the Rainbow and Molesworth station done over Easter with full camping set up and food for a few days. Beautiful riding and she handled well on the gravel with a GL Great Basin and the smaller Wolfman expedition bag on the tank.

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  10. atgreg

    atgreg Africatwinarama Super Moderator

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    well Ive got an FH08 of a CBR600RR on the way and managed to get another red plug in good nick of another Honda wiring harness my bike shop had :D

    Now its to check eastern beaver for connectors and see how my soldering skills are
  11. Sascha

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    We just did the Rainbow (in the rain, high water in the rivers...) and Molesworth with our bike, 2up, 450kg, full camping and food for two 3 days. Pics at http://blog.rtwbybike.com/?p=237 (skipp to photo 56 (I had to downsample the picts to 400px...limited webspace...)

    Just a question, for what you need anything else than the original 23l tank? You can easily go this two with the original tank (fill up in Hanmer Springs).

    I am just curious, which country does require a milage of 1000km? Maybe we will pass it one time. I have been to the most of them and didnt run out of gasoline (OK just one time... but was my fault and I could "roll" to the next gasoline station, that was in Germany). Even the oOutback, most parts of Afirca (99% of it, and a extra 10l would be enough to cover this 1%) doesnt require more than the normal tank.

    So for me, IMHO, this "Elephant tanks" are to show off, arent they? :lol3 :freaky

    I thought a long time b4 our trip to get one of these, but then the pros and cons... and my wife asked me the above question^^ and what should I say....:bueller


    cheers, GRTS fom the Cameron Highlands, Malaysia... (Still have gasoline in my 23l tank, btw. 1l is 0.40€ here :clap, but a beer 6€)
  12. farcall

    farcall Bike-a-holic

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    Australia... but only if you venture off the major highways and secondary roads. You can ride anywhere in the world never be further than 23 litres from the next fuel stop... if you plan your ride around a 23 litre range :deal. But not everyone does that.

    Link to one of my desert rides... I carried 55 litres for this 800+kms loop. http://drriders.com/topic874.html

    Stuffed if I know what I'll be "showing off" when I fit one those "elephant tanks" to my AT. :scratch
  13. A-Wind

    A-Wind Andreas RD07a

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    I'm riding with the original 23l. But I see lot's of value in larger tanks in areas where there aren't many gas stations.

    1. You don't have to plan your route around visiting gas stations.
    2. You don't worry about (often the only) gas station on your route being closed.
    3. You don't worry about encountering some type of road closure on your your route that makes you reroute or turn around.
    4. You don't worry about miscalculating your fuel consumption. Of course it may vary substantially off-road.

    For the reasons above, on desolate Desert trails, where you ride alone and there is practically no traffic, I would not really go below 1/2 tank, because you never know if/when you need to turn around for any reason.

    ...it makes matters further complicated, that the trail head for those desolate Desert trails is usually not near gas station's either.

    ...and that really gives you only less than 1/2 of your tank capacity. :1drink
  14. Squily

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    Too true- how many times have I ventured down a track only to around 3/4 of the way because it was inpassable? :lol3

    How many times have I had to detour 100+km because I was short 10l of fuel to stay on my original track but had to backtrack? (Almost ran out of fuel in Karijini a few years ago during the floods on the way down from Millstream- Hadto go East to Auski, then turn around and drive back west to Tom Price cause I was about 5l short)

    From my house to WA/SA border is about 800km one way. No fuel stops if you take the more scenic route. Weekend excursion to the homesteads and back- 700km between fuel stops. etc.

    And then there is the more adventurous routes like Canning http://www.exploroz.com/TrekNotes/WDeserts/Canning_Stock_Route.aspx

    And true- you can plan around this, but then you have to stick to the itenary and have no leeway, or travel with backup, or arrange for fuel drops, or pay through your nose for low-grade fuel ($2.17 the other day at Warburton for 91 compared to $1.65 for 98 in Esperance), etc.

    Each to his own...:freaky


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  15. Sascha

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    Thank you, I will let my wife know... So maybe I get permission to get one as well B4 we cross to Aussi! :clap
  16. farcall

    farcall Bike-a-holic

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    That's the spirit :D.
  17. boboneleg

    boboneleg we can rebuild him.

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    I have used that system, in Britain it is manufactured by Kliktronic........ http://www.kliktronic.co.uk/

    I am also a left-leg amputee like your friend Stefano, I used it on my Yamaha Serow when I wanted to ride off-road after I lost my leg.

    Well done for sorting out his adaptions, if he ever wants to talk i will leave my email, my wife is Italian so she should be able to translate.

    cheers, Bob.

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  18. KT1

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  20. Noprogram

    Noprogram High Plains Drifter

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    Hi Farcall, great pictures! Is the AT going to become the weapon of choice once you get the fuel range up or are you going to keep the DR for bush riding? I've got some Australian touring planned for July but not sure if I should bring the AT and just stick to the main routes or bring a XR or DR for increased versatility? -DR with the Safari tank obviously a popular choice for the outback. Any feedback on your own preferences? Thanks for sharing the amazing photos also Squily. Got an amazing country over there.

    Sascha: great photo's on the web (not bad country through the Molesworth eh!?) and good luck with RTW....awesome!