The Africa Twin XRV650 & XRV750 thread

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by iswoolley, Aug 23, 2004.

  1. modrover

    modrover BOOMSHANKA!

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    Nice one! :freaky
  2. 2tallnwide

    2tallnwide Long timer

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    Thanks for all the great pics...[​IMG]

    I saw my one and only AT at the Honda dealer in Dubai in 2002...and yes I lusted after it, pics just don't do the bike the justice it deserves. I wasn't aware they quit making them in 03, I wish I would have tried a little harder to get the bike and have it shipped home....although I know a couple guys that did that with HD's several years apart and both of them said never again, ummm not buy a HD but having it shipped to the States [​IMG]...what a royal PITA that was for them.[​IMG]
    Good luck to anyone attempting that venture!
  3. GSPD750

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    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2>This is also posted over at XRV.org.uk.

    </TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>I have had my share of fuel pump woes in the past on my '99 @ and now I feel I have finally solved them with the recent install of this US made solid state Facet pump. Model # 40105

    The orginal OEM pump failed after the contacts burned out. Probably not a 'bad' pump once it was modified for a suppressor to prevent the contacts from pitting. But the new OEM pump does not come cheap. $$ Alternative? Yes.

    Next...the nice people at African Queens sent me the Mikuni vacum pump.
    It seemed to be the answer, and after a few thousand kms it was performing flawlessly. Then it seemed in hot weather conditions I would experience fuel starvation symptoms. Fuel was somehow bypassing and blocking the vacum source..apparently. The 'T' fitting trap mod from AQ
    did not seem to work. It was from the South African AT Club that I first heard of the Facet pump.

    Ok, for only $29 USD plus shipping I can experiment. The first model of pump I ordered was #40106. The claimed pump pressure on this model
    is 4-6 psi. Nothing in the packaging or on the pump indicates this. Strange that they do not. Another web source claims the pump pressure is 4-5.5 psi. I quickly installed this pump (hot wired) for a rally I attended.
    After 2,000 kms round trip it worked perfectly. Having not yet hard wired it to the fuel cutoff relay I occasionally would forget to unplug it (as it was wired direct to the battery) and after shutting the ignition off the pump would continue to run and fuel would spew out the carb overflows via the drain tube onto the ground. No problem, once I permanently hard wired it it to the fuel cutoff relay that fuel spill would be eliminated.

    I now permanently hardwired the model 40106 in and drove it hard and fast. It was then I noticed a small amount of fuel coming from the carb overflows when idling at a stop. Mmmm....It was small enough to piss me off and it was telling me this pump pressure is just a wee bit on the high side.

    Ok, I now ordered in the Facet Model # 40105. Claimed pressure is 2.5 - 4.5 psi, depending on the web source, I have also read where pressure is 2.5 - 3.0.
    Again, nothing on the packaging or pump indicates pressures. In fact the
    models 40105 and 40106 are "identical" in appearance and markings.

    Time to install the 40105.

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    The pump measures less than 3" in any direction and weighs in at 18 oz.

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    Lets cut off the pump mounts which are not req'd.

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    Sand off any sharp edges.

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    Well ain't that special. The OEM pump rubber shock mount fits right over the Facet pump. Its a tight fit but it can be done. A little silicon spray on the rubber eased the installation.

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    Lets slightly bend the mounting supports upwards and downwards on the frame to accomodate the Facet.

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    To install you simply push it onto the supports. Views are fuel "IN".

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    Fuel "OUT"

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    Fittings are 1/8" IPT

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    Connecting the wires is straight forward. You can use your old connector
    from the OEM pump and splice it in. Fuel hoses have to be shortened
    accordlingly. I have only a few hundred kms on the 40105 and so far I am very pleased with the performance and no overflow spillage. In the USA this pump can be sourced at Aircraft Spruce & Specialty in the state of Georgia or CA.
    http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/facetpumps.php


    So, just thought I would share with what works for me. And of course, the usual disclaimer. :deal

    Wayne
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  4. modrover

    modrover BOOMSHANKA!

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    Wayne... thanks for posting. Be sure not to "move" those photos or delete them as they make for a great how-to. :1drink

    I've not even looked at the one on my RD03. I know all the bad press on 'em... I'll probably order up one of those pumps at some point. Hopefully it won't be when I'm really F'd and in need though. :lol3
  5. Jim Rowley

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    I've read up on the Facet also on the XRV-UK site. You really clarified the install. :thumb I'm getting a pump tomorrow. Thanks for posting it.
    Jim.
  6. GSPD750

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    Hey Mod,
    The cover comes off the OEM pump quite easily for inspection of the contacts.
    If yours are showing "peaks and valleys" then I'd suggest you rip it out
    now before it strands you. My OEM did...luckily it was not far from home and the truck ride was short.


  7. GSPD750

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    Hi Jim,
    Congrats on the AT purchase. Nice look'in one too.
    You sold me a pair of Galfer Green pads and an SS line
    awhile back for my GS. Nice improvement...and the GG pads
    seem to last forever. :ricky
    Yeah, the Facet is the way to go. Nice price too.
    ...later



  8. modrover

    modrover BOOMSHANKA!

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    Good advice on that. I'll have to find out if the XRV650 uses the same pump part number as the XRV750. I know flow rates and such can vary.

    Hey, my fuel pump part number is 16710-MS8-005 (this number could be an old number that has been superseded though). Is this the same part number for the fuel pump on your XRV750? :ear
  9. GSPD750

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    I believe 16710-MAY-305 applies to my RDO7. Probably pretty close in comparison to yours...but I can't be sure.
  10. Slimie

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    That's a really nice job, I'll have to inspect mine soon if only for reassurance. Can the part of this thread detailing the pump installation be transplanted into the "Wisdom" forum?

    Thanks, Wayne, for such a clear explanation and great photgraphs.

    Cheers

    -Simon
  11. modrover

    modrover BOOMSHANKA!

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    "You know I'm born to loose... and gambling's for fools, but that's the way I like it baby I don't want to live forever!!!!!" :super :D (that's blast'n in the ipod)
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    -stopped to help a friend out with his Land Rover and he shot me :lol3
  12. GSPD750

    GSPD750 Adventurer

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    I'm trying to overtake Modrover for the amount of pics posted of our AT
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    somehow i feel its a no win situation. :nod As for all the other AT owners viewing this thread and wherever you are in the world...please show us your bike!!

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  13. Jeff@TheQuadShop

    Jeff@TheQuadShop TAT survivor

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    How about a wanna be AT?



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  14. modrover

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    yes YES YES! MORE AFRICA TWIN! :evil
  15. Anders J.

    Anders J. SUPERenduro

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    Here´s mine!


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  16. modrover

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    Nice fender mod there :1drink
  17. Jim Rowley

    Jim Rowley Rise above

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    Why not?

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  18. GSPD750

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    Ok. Between Mod, Jim R, Jeff and myself that pretty much covers the North American (AT owners) that post on Advrider. Again, would be nice to view more pics from elsewhere. Action shots are a bonus. :nod


    Following taken last May in the Banff area. Won't be long before that lake is frozen again.

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  19. modrover

    modrover BOOMSHANKA!

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    I'm just keeping this up at the top (more overseas stuff would be nice I know) :D
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    The Gorge (Columbia Rvr. area in WA/OR)
  20. modrover

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    Another mindless PNW shot (that other bike's a XT500)
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