the african twin honda never built

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  1. kenny robert

    kenny robert Long timer

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    thought i share the final assembly and minor fab left on my monstrosity
    the idea i had was do what i did out of high school and what everybody else was doing ,suspension circa 1974-75
    but do it half right with 40 years of gatherd knowhow of a master ag shop manual machinist fabricator welder brazer machine designer problem solver hydraulics tech do everythiug they always gave me the impossible that made you cringe and sweat
    the intention to do what i was trying to do then but didn't have the money i layed down and forward mounted shocks for friends pursangs mostly,we all raced mx bilstien shocks were the only ones that dint melt in 2 motoes
    my inspiration for the rear suspension isd a maico gp the first long travel maico even though its not a very good shock geometry it leaves room for an airbox and batt-ree and it looks cool
    the sharp eyed will note the swinger is strong-backed somewhat penton-ish
    8 '' front and rear deraked, gusseted sl frame everything is handmade that looks so some doesn't look it,with hacksaws, files a small lathe,drillpress hyd press beverly shear oxy-ace etc ..i hate powder coat ,you can have that shit,powder coat is for girls and sissies
    its hammertone for me,and raw TALENT
    oh yeah i loves me some speed holes in the gussets just like in the flying sub
    i could rattle on but have a build thread going elsewhere IMG_2604.JPG IMG_2612.JPG IMG_2622.JPG IMG_2628.JPG
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    kenny robert Long timer

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    IMG_2592.JPG IMG_2589.JPG IMG_2591.JPG IMG_2565.JPG the forks are a composite of parts the fork brace started life as an upper triple clamp from some upsidowners
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  3. Otony

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    That rear brake looks pretty vulnerable. Have you thought about mounting it on top of the swingarm?
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    kenny robert Long timer

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    indeed it has crossed my mind for now i am done attack crawling through slimy rocky creekbeds and pinballing ,throttle pinned,through endless rolling baby head fields laced with axe sharp manzanita and oak stumps shin high, in the quest of another AMA national enduro overall win ,one is plenty:photog
    i ride 80% pavement but will be doing a bit more fire roading its when you least expect it
    i had it rigged up with a modern lashup ktm plate ,BREMBO ,with some top shelf nigerian engineering,but i got stuck on welding the lug on the swinger the lug to slot in the plate i just did not like it anyway i kinda hated the look
    so you got me thinking i like it there all busy looking
    and that rotor is history i am putting back on ther original one i had a sweeet 3 willer kawi tecate rotor
    its a lil larger which meant a relash on the hangar and it will be rotated forward a bit maybe
    its actually very rare to get something passing that asea while riding 'cept pickin through baby heads which im not going to do
    do you think a sharkfin is in order "?speedholes sharkfin speeed hoooles shaarrkk fiiin i got some dumpster doave big sheets of 3/8 and 1/2 thick,delrin-uhmdubbaya,slick strong sharkfin a =holy one say a prayer


    next question please
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    kenny robert Long timer

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    and you are way too correct to ignore it was so easy to revise
    it is a "fixed clapper" so i will need some collars on each side of its delrin bushing that fits almost press tight on the axle spool once i re-determine the exact rear wheel tracking line,which of course effects the clapper's position axially,see
    now i must stringline the wheels again...i cannot remember just which spacers i finalised for the rear axle and wheel position
    I HAVE FULLY EARNED THE EXTRA WORK CAUSE I DID NOT TAKE NOTES
    it was over a year ago when i modified ,deraked and shoved the frame around to get wheels inline ,same tracking line ,drivechaine-line AND i had to fix the vertical axis as welll
    ill post up some pics of my stringline technique when i get that set AGAIN
    wish i had taken pictures of the hd knuclehead crank flywheel halves used as hung weights to pull tight the stringlines



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    you may ask about the brazing on the wp shock rod ends
    back in the day we usually forward mounted the shockls only to find the spring keeper required the inner mount,the strongback piece to be weakened with a big-ass notch depending on the forward lean of the damper
    so my plan has always been make room for a 15'' range shock including extended rod end
    the wp 1/2'' shaft has a 3/8-16 thread i like the steel fox rod end because it is 1'' bore eye and i have a bunch of slightly used nascar takeoff ss spherical bushings, od 1 inch
    fox rod ends are 1/2-20 internal rod capture thread here was my solution using a head boltnut from an old kawi as the donor stock
    it basically just the long way for a threaded insert but i have seen a few wp shocks bent right at the rod end 3/8 threrasd so i prefer a capture with the rod as well hence the insert with a reamed 1/2 inch bore for a 1/4'' of capture assembly is red loctighted on rod end
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    kenny robert Long timer

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    what year is it ? never mind !next question, winglets? "before the ban".first blood pound for pound
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    2 possitioin grill/bill holy vicer, by god
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    lesman Live easy, Brake Hard

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    Dude,
    this is the first time I've been scared viewing a post.
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  10. kenny robert

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    scared? what did you dress the wound with to heal so fast ? ,price ya pay ,see
    you get a jagged gashburn like from your hb 4" grinder disc ,fragging and you need to nurse it home, thats all

    :photog NEXT QUESTION PLEASE
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    kenny robert Long timer

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    IMG_2720.JPG IMG_2714.JPG IMG_2719.JPG sheesh a bassh-screen screen that flips up down over the headlight numbity git i was for that from now on functional design towards completion like the first ever for an adv,laminair floew lamenting wings
    feast yer eyes maglots
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    Looks like Johnny-5. :lol3
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    Man. This thing is so friggen out there. It's actually kinda growing on me.
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    I'm lost here. Or missing the point. But now I'm intrigued, so please carry on!

    Cheers... Paul
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    thanks guys it will be a lighter faster better suspended more comfortable machine than the sl350 was the frame is was sl350
    the engine starts going together tomorrow,nos head and cam and valves the hottest grind honda made besdides the cyb kit
    fitting the tank now,it will have the classic dual down back and upswept exhaust sl350 and dakar bike style a good airbox
    the point is its almost like going back and doing some of the mods better than i did at 18 in 75
    but its still a piece of shit 350 twin with an outdated engine and thats part of the point of the deal you cannot find a more reliable tuning friendly with aftermarkert support than the 350 twin ,i purposely stayed down at 36mm with the forks but did upgrade them to du bushings gold valves and the lightest ,thinest wall 36's stanchion's made period correct works performance or some hiiesalu airshocks
    to go and chuck a late model front end on it would be cheating so wouldf 43mm conventiasls
    i am at the practical limit of travel for this frame at 8" anyway
    but the sl was a blast to ride on norrow roads where, say, my tl1000r just scares the shit out of me cause the fekkin loud handle is sooo seducicating
    it started the point being 12,000 miles with 27np ,was not going to happen nagain,aint nobody got time fo dat, i wanted more power the sl is down 10-12 hp on the early cb/cl/sl
    and of course i already had done the sl with mild mods 6-1/2" travel early mx yamaha forks and fox in the back it just got more ..involved but all the briges have been crossed itll go quick together now
    heres the sl on a ride if you listen you can almost here it screaming i cant breath !!<iframe width="640" height="360" src="" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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    update all new fab ex pipes example of how i stringlline off 0f front rim edgekeep strings paralell then skid rear wheel till it is centered make sure axle is square to track =/paralell to pivot splindle

    aircraft wedjit seat latch use correctly for seat
    seat going to up-holsterer soon

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    hey this aint a hardware store dont be picking shit up

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    kenny robert Long timer

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    davesupreme grand poobah

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    i'm diggin' the pipes..... :super
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