The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. Paulvt1

    Paulvt1 Long timer

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    I hate to think how frenzied this place will be around the 2nd of October..
  2. def

    def Ginger th wonder dog

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    Those of you traveling to and attending Intermot 2012 have an obligation to the rest of the BMW world here that are not as fortunate.

    You must attend all the events dealing with the unveiling of the new BMW waterboxer.

    Here is your assignment;

    1- Speak with all the BMW engineering types you can and determine all the technical details surrounding the new engine. Learn German if you have to but don't leave any technical stone unturned. Speaking with sales types is OK but, they'll just tell you a bunch of lies, especially the female BMW Marketing types.

    2- Stay away from the booth babes....remember, you're like a prizefighter...no sex for weeks before or during the assignment.

    3- Also determine the clutch and transmission details associated with the new watercooled engine. How is the clutch serviced/repaired? Things like that......

    4- Easy on the drinking of German beer and schnapps...it will only dull your mind to the task at hand.

    5- Lots of photos...close ups of the new engine design, the induction, exhaust and the driveline...photos of booth babes are allowed but no touching...remember the goal here is knowledge...carnal knowledge is not part of the assignment.

    6- If you run across some really good German food, get the recipe and post it along with your BMW waterboxer findings.

    Now, gentlemen, begin your training and don't let us down. Our motorcycle buying decision depend on you.

    Ilegitemi non carborundum....In hoc signa vinces...win one for the gipper and all that.

    That is all.

    Safe travels.

    73
  3. Loutre

    Loutre Cosmopolitan Adv

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    Sir, Yes Sir! :devildog
  4. aGremlin

    aGremlin Been here awhile

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    def... you are clearly married.

    For those attending, please feel free to post as many booth babes as you like... :lol3
  5. Loutre

    Loutre Cosmopolitan Adv

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    I prefer your mission. Can I switch commanders? :freaky
  6. TuonoBiker

    TuonoBiker Been here awhile

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    That's good stuff, Def!! You a Navy man? It's not often I run across "Illegitimi non carborundum." My father was a submariner and he's got a lot of patches from the boats with that slogan...

    Good stuff.
  7. tagesk

    tagesk Tuscan rider

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    Really good German food - um, isn't that contradiction in terms?
    Wießbier, OK, but food?

    [TaSK]
  8. petzi-baer

    petzi-baer Been here awhile

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    :-) But there is good foods in Germany. Love Italian as well. Would definitely be the reason for a trip to Italy. Screw culture.

    Now back to the original topic. Any bets on now much the new bike weigh?
    Ride-by-wire?


    petzi-baer
  9. Emperor Norton

    Emperor Norton Kilroy was here

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    Beer aside, currywurst is delicious (for fast food) and sauerbraten can be. Besides any culture that can turn pigs into so much delicious sausage has something going for it. Also beer.
  10. def

    def Ginger th wonder dog

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    USN, CA-148, USS Newport News was my last duty assignment.

    Now hear this, Intermot training begins at 1800 hours. Lay to. That is all!
  11. def

    def Ginger th wonder dog

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    Mutiny carries with it severe penalty...be careful.
  12. def

    def Ginger th wonder dog

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    One already exists...it called the Goldwing and it's water cooled.
  13. def

    def Ginger th wonder dog

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    Correctomundo.

    Remember, as RPM changes, the pistons weight influence changes. Also, as the connecting rods reciprocate, a portion of their mass is able to be offset with crankshaft counter weight. But then, the connecting rod mass changes as its reciprocating mass becomes rotation mass....multicylinder engines can be made much smoother and their crankshafts can be made smaller and these engine can rev higher with fewer forces trying to tear them apart.

    Take a look at a 4 row radial P&W or Wright aircraft engine sometime if you want to study the dynamics of force and mass in a piston engine.

    An electric motor or a turbine is best. There are no reciprocating parts meaning balance is not a problem.
  14. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    And of course legend has it that BMW had a water cooled four banging boxer on the drawing board when they got wind that Honda would have the Goldwing engine on the market first. BMW didn't want to be accused of copying Honda, so they started over. Thus the Flying Brick came to be.
  15. erkmania

    erkmania Still Adventuring

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    Radials are things of beauty and the English sleeve valve radials were enormously complex.

    Or, viewed slightly differently, balance is a big problem if a turbine wheel or rotor is not in balance, but I digress.

    I add nothing to the conversation, but I was moved to speak. Hmm. My new sig line. It's fitting. :D
  16. ytsiwt

    ytsiwt n00b

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    Connecting rod mass can't change unless someone enters the engine and welds on it or grinds on it. Mass is mass sitting still or rotating. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    You have anything data wise to show how the mass is changing? <o:p></o:p>
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    comparable to a boxer twin. Seems to me those don't have a 360° firing order or 360° crankshaft but instead use a master rod with a single crankshaft pin. <o:p></o:p>
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  17. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    I would be all over this.

    Make it about 100lbs lighter than a 1200, air cooled, with a strong subframe.

    Instant success. :clap
  18. kiwiAdventure

    kiwiAdventure Long timer

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    Sweet looking bike. I do regret selling my HP2 I'm just hoping their will be another in time.
  19. Loutre

    Loutre Cosmopolitan Adv

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    Yeah me too and give it a catchy headlight like the other GS's :lol3
  20. Parigi

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    Oh, and no mambo-jambo one side paralever please. Even better, they should hire this S-Kraft guy, as his sketches always make more sense than BMW's. Sorry BMW.
    Rant off.