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Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.
Colour me impressed, I really likes it!
I'm sure they will sell a boatload, but I can't believe this is the same company that designed my R100S or R100RS. I just can't decide if it is in fact uglier than the R1200ST, which I loved to ride but just could not bear to buy when looking at it.
With the design direction BMW took for the 2013 GS, I believe they are targetting the below 40 year old market which I believe comprise the majority of GS owners at present. The above 40 crowd, I surmise, wish that the Adventure version looks a little more tame than the mechanical look of its smaller sibling.
Me, I wanted it reliable and pretty at the same time, and from an 1150 and 1200GS Adventures, I went Japanese
Great info - that adds good perspective. In this class of bike, I don't see shedding 10's of pounds to be a huge priority. I'm not saying I want it to gain weight either...we don't need a big pig bike...that's what my Harley is for.
I think the advancement in the engine and the suspension system are going to produce a very nimble, athletic ride from this bike. The current model is already nimble for what its designed to do: carry 1 or 2 people and luggage/gear across a wide range of road surfaces.
I still say if you want handling to the be the first and foremost selling point, you need to look at the Multistrada. I'll take my GSA over it any day for long-haul comfort, two-up capability, ability to handle all sorts of camping equipment, etc.
This bike has been well thought out and designed to be robust. I'm pretty sure that BMW has felt the competition to some extent and knew they couldn't just throw some spit polish at the current GS and call it good. Maybe I'm a Kool-aid drinker, I don't know.
Anxious for road reviews, though.
Interesting note: No oil cooler that I can see. Not even finned oil pan. Water and oil must pass by each other internal to the engine plus the finning on the cylinders to the extent the oil is cooled. The transmission also becomes an extra heat sink/source.
RL Lemke, Thankyou for the pics.
Now I am dehydrated from all the drooling.
Proper airbox placement ftw. It would be much more difficult for me to submarine this one.
I quite like it. It's grown on me. The new airbox / tank layout looks sweet. I should imagine it'll handle superbly.
Jim, do you like the Smurfs too?
Here are some of the remaining engine photos I downloaded. Sorry if there is a duplicate or two.
Hope BMW doesn't mind my posting so many of their photos.
Last three images from me.
I suspect you were asked for...
Here's how they'll do it GB:
Make it fatter, just like the current Adv version.
I am at the show and have been posting inktearviews and comments from various people involved in the project since yesterday on the BMW MOA website. I asked about the ethanol fuel issue. I also asked why the shield adjustment knob was on the right side which would require usin,g the throttle hand to adjust it while on the fly. The answer was that in Germany the regs are such that the bike must be stopped to adjust the shield. Now we all know that in practice we will all adjust it while riding with the left hand reaching across. A bit awkward, but perhaps there will be a mod that TT or the like will come up with. In addition, they said that it really is not an issue with the electronic cruise control which they think will be ordered by almost all buyers.
Looking at all the mechanical photos and the test pictures, I'm quite convinced this bike will be so good it will again redefine the big adventure bike segment.
BMW did the same with the K1600GT(S).
The bike is so good it absolutely blows away everyone who rides one.
I have the feeling this new GS is going to do the same.
And I really don't give a rats ass how the bike looks, but my opinion is that it looks much better than the current gen GS.
As good as the current GS is, it also had some many little "band aids" all over the bike that the end result started to get quite cluttered.
GB,Mr Moderator,you owe me a apology !
At least you did not ban me this time for pointing out the main advantage of the new watercooled boxer not having to split the bike anymore in case of a leaky rear main seal or after frying the clutch...
I always new the clutch was sitting behind the bulky front cover and not behind the engine like the "pros" from the magazines speculated because it would have negated the main advantage of the new engine design.
Maybe you can let me post in "Road Warriors" again...
Like I said the new GS doesn't excite me in form of creating the must have feeling because I expected around 135 hp and think the design of gauges and tank-covers could have been more classy.
Plastic look like that could have come out of japan,too.
I hope the new BMW design boss will make a classier redo in 3 years come the first upgrade like they got rid of the cheap looking tank covers for the better looking ones on the 2008 R1200GS.
But I like the clutch,E-gas and the fact that the timing-chain doesn't put as much strain on the tensioner guides by making not as a tight turn because intake/exhaust are on top and bottom,now...
Like I said with 135hp,underseat exhaust for 2 big cases,less plasticy look I would get in line for a new one in spring.
Now I will wear out my 2012 TB-GS-ADV first...
(But look forward to see and testride the 2014 R1200GS-ADV)
Long live the King...
Even if the MS will still beat the GS in a straight line but for that BMW has the S1000RR that will make the MS look dog-slow...
What I really look forward too are the next variants of the the boxer generation !
Hopefully a R1200RS will be part of the new line-up...