The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    K1600 is a touring bike, so okay Georgia worked. Any place in California, definitely can be the home of he GS. Especially in SoCal, we have mountains. We have desert (sand). We have rocks. Changing elevations. Scenery. All of these welcome GS type bikes, hence riders. We even have BMW's official GS training center in Angeles National Forest mountains. Well Starbucks too! Panera Bread too, if that helps. I'm just say'n :1drink :ricky
  2. 6USMC6

    6USMC6 R.I.P. Party Boss

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    BMW's US headquarters is on the East coast..............
  3. Marki_GSA

    Marki_GSA Long timer

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    There are 3 headlight option:

    Halogen with small normal tungsten light and presumably the low beam is fixed on as it is now.
    Halogen with LED DRL below the high beam.
    Full LED low beam, high beam and kinda horseshoe DRL round the high beam.
    It's been suggested that the full LED might not be avaliable in the states. You guys will know better about that than me but none of the show bikes have had the LED lights so it might be correct.
  4. 6USMC6

    6USMC6 R.I.P. Party Boss

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    I can not understand what makes people think the LED lights won't be available in the States?

    BMW and Audi (and probably Mercedes and the high end Japanese cars) have had LED lights - at least surrounding the headlights - for the past two model years. Why would they penalize bikes and prohibit an obvious safety feature?
  5. bajaburro

    bajaburro Ancient Adventurer

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    California also has more adv posers per capa than all the other states combined so you maybe right.
  6. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    I think the problem with a California intro is that it is not exotic. IMHO, BMW likes to portray the GS as a bike to ride across the most remote corners of the globe, so it needs to be someplace that looks to be out of a National Geographic safari of some kind.
  7. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    Well, think of this way, those Clint Eastwood movies with tough and remote locations of Mexico, perhaps shot somewhere in California. We have green forest too, think of Muirwood Park just 20 minutes north of San Francisco :freaky
  8. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    Okay you got me there. Can't argue with that. :jose
  9. MANXMAN

    MANXMAN Overlander

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    With both rims being 1/2" wider on the new GS and the tires now being basically sport bike tires and wider also (120 width front and 170 width rear) I would like to know what we are going to do about fitting dual sport tires.

    The bottom picture shows a proper dual sport tire fitted so I am guessing the narrower 110 front and the 150 rear TKC 80s for example can be used on the wider rims. If that is so, then I wonder if the wider rim is a good idea when running lower air pressures in the tires on rougher sections of the trails. Possibility of the tire coming off the rim?

    One phone call to Woody and he will be able to lace up the previous narrower rims to the new hubs and solve that problem, but that sounds like a very expensive route to go.
  10. JNRobert

    JNRobert Breaking Wind

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    Cug, did BMW have the F800GT there?
  11. cug

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    No. That one wasn't there. Would have loved to sit on one.
  12. Marki_GSA

    Marki_GSA Long timer

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    There are new dual sport tyres made in the new size. That's one advantage of BMW being a market leader I guess. If they want tyres of X size the manufacturers will make them. I bet the other adventure style bikes move to the new size soon as well.
  13. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    I LOVE the look of this model!

    Oh, and I think there are new tire sizes and some new models coming out to support the new bikes.
  14. MANXMAN

    MANXMAN Overlander

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    If you are referring to the Anakee 3 then that is not a dual sport tire but very likely an excellent tire for spirited riding on pavement. Plus wider tires will not be better once you leave pavement.
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    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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  16. Marki_GSA

    Marki_GSA Long timer

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    There is a whole range of tyres coming out from various manufacturers including knoblies. It's a fair comment about the wider tyre not being optimal though. That said it doesn't seem to hamper the 4x4 vehicles which are increasingly using wider tyres to good affect. It is probably just a fashion thing though.
  17. MANXMAN

    MANXMAN Overlander

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    I do understand why BMW have gone with the wider wheels & tires. More riders want better performance on pavement than on dirt and BMW wants to sell as many GSs as possible.

    I'm in the minority because if I up-grade to the new GS, I want to keep at least as much off pavement performance as I have on my 09.
  18. 6USMC6

    6USMC6 R.I.P. Party Boss

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    The TKC-80 in 120/70R17 and 180/55R17 (KTM Supermoto size) has been available here in the states for several months. The smaller BMW size tires were said to be available too.
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    Marki_GSA Long timer

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    Maybe the GSA will retain the narrower tyres since its meant to be more off road. Probably not though.
  20. Deans BMW

    Deans BMW Granpa Hoon

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    San Jose has one on the floor, 90 HP. :deal