The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. tallguy-09

    tallguy-09 Smile 4 Miles

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    "Beauty and the Beast". She looks out of place I'd say, they grey is my favorite color.

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    I like the looks without any plastic just as much as the "finished" version.

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  2. Falcon Rust

    Falcon Rust Adventurer

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  3. asphaltsurfer1

    asphaltsurfer1 CatManDoo

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    I disagree that the distribution will be any different with the new model relative to the split between off and on road. That being said the amount of off road worthiness of a 500 lb motorcycle really comes down to skill, strength and willingness to take scratches and wear on an expensive mount. BMW had one at the Dallas show a couple of weeks ago. I sat on it and looked it over very closely. It is more evolution, even with the major motor redesign, than revolution. The tires are noticeably wider than my 08 GS. The Dallas example had spoke wheels, which are much more Matt finished than mine. The overall look to instruments and engine is far cleaner with fewer wires, injectors and connectors showing. The windscreen is very easy to raise and lower its just funny that its on the right side when you'll want to adjust using your left hand while moving:eek1. The slightly slimmer seat and midsection does contribute to a slightly easier reach to the ground, maybe by an inch or less. The overall feel of balance, weight and construction appear to be very similar. Things like the metal clutch and brake slaves probably indicates BMWs intent on the new bike seeing significant off road duty also evident in promotional videos. IMO take is they wanted to close the street- worthiness of the Ducati MS, Triumph and other entries while not disorienting any current owners. I can't wait to actual tests and comparisons once journalists get their hands on these things.
  4. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    Thanks for your review. Did the GS on display have the LED headlights?
  5. RichBMW

    RichBMW Long timer

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    I can't wait until Saturday as I'm off to the bike show at the NEC with some mates. I've heard that they're releasing prices in the UK at the show.:clap
  6. Grants

    Grants Been here awhile

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  7. Deans BMW

    Deans BMW Granpa Hoon

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    JN, my mistake, it was another bike, sorry about that.
  8. marchyman

    marchyman Cam Killer

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    The one in San Mateo had Halogen lights and did not include the "driving light" option, either.

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    Note that the parking light bulb is now inside the main headlamp, not separate like it is in the hexheads and camheads.
  9. asphaltsurfer1

    asphaltsurfer1 CatManDoo

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    I don't believe the Dallas show bike had the LED headlights. Either i missed that detail or they weren't there to impress me. Also, the radiators are tiny on that thing- small bore MX bike small. Tucked up high I think they be fairly survivable of tip overs.

    My guess is the new one will be just a little better all around given slightly bigger tires, a really robust looking frame upgrade, longer swing arm and the more powerful motor.

    I also forgot to mention there was a BMW guy standing next to it with an iPad. When he found out I was an owner of the previous model he was very interested in conducting a survey. I think BMW is very concerned about what their customers think of the new model. Being such a big seller it's no surprise i guess. He was also interested in cross over customers from their car division, which I also own- an older X5. Nice that they conduct real "street research" on customer opinions in different markets.
  10. twray

    twray Adventurer

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    Anyone know what the gear ratios are. I hope they lower the first gear more than the current GS.
  11. cug

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    Primary ratio - 1.65

    I - 2.438
    II - 1.714
    III - 1.296
    IV - 1.059
    V - 0.943
    VI - 0.848

    Transmission Ratio - 2.91


    You'll have to find the old ones yourself. These are the ones for the 2013 model.
  12. marchyman

    marchyman Cam Killer

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    Given those numbers, the size of the rear tire, (and assuming my calculations are correct :D)

    at 2000 RPM you'll be going 13, 18, 24, 30, 33, and 37 MPH
    at 4000 RPM you'll be going 25, 36, 48, 59, 66, and 73 MPH
    at 6000 RPM you'll be going 38, 45, 72, 88, 99, and 110 MPH
  13. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    Nah... Totally bogus numbers. You forgot that as you go faster centrifugal force makes the tires get larger in diameter, thus the gear ratios get taller. It will easily do 165 at 6000 rpm.

    :topes
  14. marchyman

    marchyman Cam Killer

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    :shog of course. How could I forget. :doh
  15. gkaan

    gkaan Bikes on the Brain

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    have there been any independent ride reports written yet? seems like there should have been a press ride of some sorts by now considering the bike will be in showrooms in a couple of months.
  16. Marki_GSA

    Marki_GSA Long timer

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    As far as I know the press haven't had a go yet. The first press event I belive is scheduled for February, I can't remember where it is in the world for the life of me though.
  17. Beemerlover

    Beemerlover Been here awhile

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    Maybe they haven't actually built a running version of a production bike yet.

    Didn't somebody say that the bikes at the shows weren't able to be started?
  18. Deans BMW

    Deans BMW Granpa Hoon

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    Yes they have running models and have been and are going thru extensive testing.
  19. Moronic

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    More detail here.
  20. Marki_GSA

    Marki_GSA Long timer

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    They will be tooling up for the new bike and getting it ready for production. I have actually seen vehicles where the press get access at the same time as they go on sale.