The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    Those constant speed numbers are meaningless. My camhead gets about 43 mpg all around and that's a lot of canyons and spirited riding, but surprisingly doesn't seem to get much better just cruising on the highway, although I'm usually going a little faster than 65 mph. I recall doing the math before on camhead vs. wethead and I think the wethead numbers were about 5% improved, so I'm expecting maybe 2mpg more.... The GS is geared fairly low compared to the RT for example and it has pretty poor aerodynamics too, so those two factors hurt mileage.
  2. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    water cooling and integrated transmission is not exactly 'edge of technology'. And neither is drive by wire and dynamic suspension...BMW has years of experience in all of these areas.
  3. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    Wow!

    I've got Oilhead Cruiser, and per BMW, city is 40mpg and highway I think was 44-46. Smooth riding city + highway, I get 42, while spirited riding and SoCal canyon riding gets me 40 mpg. So I am in the ball park. I thought 2010+ Camhead should give much better mileage, probably around 50 ball park. So I thought Werhead should give an average of some 53. :huh

    Aerodynamic wise, I think mine is a brick block, and I am sure Wethead should do a little better, but not by far.
  4. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    It's not my experience that the camheads get much better mileage than the hexheads. Comparing to friends with both I seem to be in the ballpark.
  5. TuefelHunden

    TuefelHunden Been here awhile

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    Fully comprehend your point. Mechanically, I prefer the basic air cooled bike I have. Really, I see absolutely no real benefit for me with the changes made. The good news for this new model is that it opens up vast opportunities for major oil wars: wet clutch and long chain shearing. I can see the "what oil do YOU use" threads running rampant. :rofl
  6. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    Sure there is all sorts of fluids, look here
  7. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    Yeap, definitely will be increasing my oil change intervals on the new GS.
  8. oalvarez

    oalvarez Resident Raggamuffin

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    In my first 600mi (all canyons) the GS never did better than 39.2mpg on a tank with the avg, being closer to 38mpg. I'll write that off to it being new and riding the roads I do.

    Can't wait to ride the new GS but I must say I'm less excited about it after having taken ownership of my current one. The air cooled GS (at this point in its product cycle) is a very refined machine and that counts for a lot in my book :deal
  9. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    I hear ya...it will be tough to part with mine as well...haven't had any issues with it and it runs beautifully. How are you liking it compared to your Multistrada?
  10. oalvarez

    oalvarez Resident Raggamuffin

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    good to hear, EJ....and hope to meet you over at Irv's one of these days, most likely next spring :wink:

    i get asked that same very question many times, and the most succinct and to the point answer i can give is "the GS is everything that the Multistrada 1200s is not." and like others here on the board have said, if i were to have just one bike, the GS would probably be it. the question i ask myself is, would it be an oil or the new water cooled one? :norton :1drink :D
  11. dougpaw57

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    I got the spokes on my 2009 because I remember all the problems in the mid-to-late 90's when everyone was bending/breaking BMW cast wheels on potholes. I just figured that even riding on the road, the spoked wheels just might be cheaper in the long run.
  12. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    You went haywire buying new bikes this year, didn't you! :lol3 :thumb :super
    Was it the CA Lottery funding it? :wink:
  13. marchyman

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    They changed the alloy wheels with the introduction of the hexhead. Some oilhead alloy wheels would bend if you looked at them wrong. I helped pound out some dents on bikes belonging to friends... then never felt whatever it was they hit/ran over. On the other hand I've abused the alloy wheels on my '05 hexhead and they are still fine.

    That said, I'll probably go wire wheels next bike just because. I'll come up with some bogus reason as to why, later. :lol2
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    this year? hahahahahahahaha :lol3
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    Translation : Every year ! :D
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    A couple of mpgs more or less is for me of no consequence, that's not the big moneydrain.
    It's the trips and the hotels and the sundowners and....the FARKELS.
    Life is short so I'll live with it even it the mileage is poor the pure joy of riding makes up for it. :clap
  17. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    It's not the money I worry, the higher the mileage, the further you go for 5.3 gal (20L). At the current 42mpg of my bike (non-GS) that has only 4.5 gallon tank, I get tired of stopping for gas and worrying about the next fillip in the desert riding. Too many fill ups on a 500 mile day trip.
  18. dmac57

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    Agreed. I'm chagrin'd to not have any long days to speak of on the '12 12GS, so I don't know how much the range is reduced compared to the eleven-fiddy. But they both suck hind tit compared to the R90, which when in proper tune would be on the high side of 250 miles before the reserve, and 300 on an optimum tank.
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    TuefelHunden Been here awhile

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    I have found that when riding twisty roads of the Appalachians, I average about 45 mph. (that's not snail speed either) I get about 220 miles to the running on fumes point, 200 if I'm really cranking the wick. That works out to be about four plus hours in the saddle. Just between you me and the outhouse, that's too frickin' long without a break, especially when hitting the turns hard. Not everyone is traversing the Gobi, Sahara, Mohave, or Oklahoma. :D A gas stop every two or three hours ain't all that bad.
  20. Montauk

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    Agree there. My max range is around 170 miles, and after riding for two hours (120 miles), its time for break. I end up filling 'cause ill never make it to the next break if I don't fill up. When done filling and recoding mileage, my riding buddies are already finished their break. It's not fun when you have to rush every thing and every time.

    It would be nice to stop and not worry about gas fill ups.