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Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.
Boy, is that the truth!
Today I sat on my next bike, the 2013 Liquid Cooled R1200GS. It was truly awesome!
In person, at the Long Beach show, the bike appears thinner and perhaps even shorter than my 2010 R1200GS. The LED lights are super bright (no need for Denalis, Glendas, etc. or any other triangles) and the seat (which like all BMWs must be replaced) moves up and down and lower and higher in front and/or back. The corporate guy from New Jersey quietly told us what he could (and stalled us when he couldn't or shouldn't) about the bike's attributes, which are many.
I cannot wait for mine.
Can't wait to see it tomorrow. Did he say when dealers here would see their first bikes?
^ hope to see the bike this weekend as well
Dealers will see their first bikes some time in March/April.
Does it look like the Vario cases from the current GS's will fit on the new GS?
Exhaust is on the other side
Nova Scotia on Explorer
We're going to have to buy new Varios (or other brand) cases and new Russells, too.
You can't simply flip the cases?
New bike new farkels, can life be better?
I really want one but I want to try it first, got a Pope mobile screen on mine and would like to see
how effective the new BMW screen is. Effing hate buffeting
I'm going to buy it with cases, can't be bothered to do it all over again.
But first my old bag of nails is going to Istambul ere it's px'ed for new one
and I want the adventure model anyway.
And what's all this bull about the GS being ugly?
Methinks mine looks great albeit a bit strange compared to UJMs.
But strange in a nice stark way
Ever hear of sarcasm as your response is far more sarcastic than ironic. IMO.
irony 1 |ˈīrənē, ˈiərnē|
noun ( pl. ironies )
the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt
As my intention was irony, not mockery, I think you must have misunderstood me due to unknown reasons or my poor english has lead you to misunderstand. And the above tells me that I was at least attempting irony, not sarcasm ... whether you understood this or not ... whatever.
It is the optional plug to activate the "Enduro Pro" mode. It allows the owner to save selected throttle response, power delivery, ABS modes, ASC, and I think even an optonal cruise control mode, so they can be selcted later for different riding conditions. It is already available on BMW's passenger cars.
Just back from the Long Beach IMS and was absolutely wowed by the new GS. From a design and technological perspective they seem to have nailed it; the motor may be water cooled but all else remains pure BMW GS. I rode my GS to the show to have a good feel for the ergos and new attributes. Like others have said, the bike appeared sleeker, less wide (probably a function of the smaller windscreen), and a little roomier in the leg/knee area. The seat height felt the same and I couldn't feel any real discernible weight diff (maybe a bit heavier?) when righting it off the side stand. The knob to change the windscreen height is a nice touch.
I'll add some pics in a bit.
My decision making has become more difficult. It all boils down to keeping what is almost perfectly refined or trying what is new and improved in certain areas.
I'm fairly certain that I want one come next year November ... For now, not so. I'm waiting for a test ride before I order something, also, wife's next bike is due, not mine ...
Just back from the show as well...Love the new GS...it's everything I thought it would be and more. I've spent so much time looking at pictures, I felt like I knew every inch of the bike. The materials felt higher in quality than I expected and the radiators that look massive in pictures are nicely tucked in. The windshield seems higher than the previous stock shield. A BMW rep again confirmed the LED being approved by DOT. There is no info. on pricing. I can't wait to test ride one.
Any mention yet of objective performance of the LED lights?
I mention that, because LED lights tend to have a poor projection pattern, with too much light spilling out a very wide angle onto road & objects very close [actually uselessly close for riding purposes] to the bike.
This reduces the effectiveness of the illumination of the distant road ~ but yet giving the psychological impression of greater overall brightness.
I'm sure it will suck
Key was not in bike so no way to see the light or the dash display, although in a bright show hall, it wouldn't tell you much. From those that saw the light demoed prior to the start of the show, I heard it described as very bright, for what that's worth. RE: LED lights, I have one on my mt bike and do a lot of night riding with it and its every bit as good as a 4x pricier HID light that was generally regarded as the best bike light a few years ago. I have no doubt though that there are poorly made LEDs out there with improperly designed reflectors that provide poor illumination, the same as with HIDs used with the wrong type of reflector.
I have no doubt that it will perform very well. BMW has spent so much time on this new feature, I'm confident they will hit the nail on the head
For the LED lights, the twin side-by-side projector lenses look good . . . but overall projection efficiency still may not be all that wonderful.
But the proof of the pudding is in the photometric reports from the engineers . . . and I hope we won't be waiting too long for that.
Some of the "best" car add-on driving lights have 90 watts of LED output, but still have rather ho-hum efficacy, once you check what they actually deliver at 300 feet distance.