The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    Good info!

    Jim :brow
  2. taran1900

    taran1900 n00b

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    You have to buy the Ganz tolles extremes Eigenschaft-Paket to get it. :deal
  3. taran1900

    taran1900 n00b

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    It is the new Fluss-Kondensator. :wink:
  4. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    No doubt Touratech is bending a protector for it as we speak.
  5. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    Not much difference. The screws look different.
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  6. Rauven

    Rauven I like the cold...

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    But where will we get 1,21 Gigawatt from ?
  7. advNZer?

    advNZer? Long timer

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    wait till 88 mph
  8. twray

    twray Adventurer

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    Any word on cruise control?
  9. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    What about it? It's there. The control is on the left side.
  10. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    At the show I asked the BMW Rep from NJ about the battery capacity being less. He kindly educated me that the decrease in the 12 amps from 19 (I think from current model) should not be viewed as a problem. It is the alternator that is critical to supply power to the system when in use. It quickly replenishes the energy back to the battery upon startup and continue to supply necessary energy to the system. If the alternator is of low capacity, then it fill not able to supply energy to the system, and will utilize the stored energy from the battery, thus depleting it.

    He said the new WC has 580 Watt alternator. Current model has 620. The reduction is sufficient due to efficient use of electrical use. I asked him having additional lights and Gerbing gear will it be able to support. The answer is Yes!

    He recommended using additional lights based on LED. It will draw very little electricity. You can continue to use your Gerbing gear, although to keep on mind that this gear uses lots of electricity, upon power-off, make sure you turn your Gerbing heat controller off. (I learned this when fueling my gas tank. I forgot to turn off, it depleted my battery. Lucky after few attempts I was able to start my bike's new BMW battery.)

    So I was rest assured that 580W is adequate for the bike.

    I suppose using less powerful alternator and battery, both will yield less space and less weight, necessary to offset the weight gained due to water cooled.
  11. cug

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    I was thinking about this video again, and now watched it a few times - not for the sound, I don't care too much about the sound of a bike, but I can't see the bike rocking sideways at all. Not a single shudder on start or throttle.

    As I don't have my R1200GS anymore, I can only go from memory, but I think whenever you started that bike, it did rock sideways, even when it was on the centerstand. It didn't move badly of course, but I'd think the camera would catch this.

    More and more looking forward to test riding it when they arrive here.
  12. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    First I watched a video clip on YouTube where BMW person in Europe does a test on the side stand, and he gave more gas than at the show. I did not notice any sideway movement. It was awesome. BMW did acknowledge some improvement to minimize sideway (PTTL) movement. However, when Charlie Boorman tested it moved to the left. Notice it through the mirror.

    YouTube link (could not embed from an iPad)

    Charlie Boorman
  13. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    Yes, it's an available option

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  14. EJ_92606

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    Interesting...I was so focused on the sound I didn't think about vibration, but looking at it again, the mirror and the windshield appear to be rock solid! Very nice!
  15. oalvarez

    oalvarez Resident Raggamuffin

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    but what about in relation to starting the motorcycle? 12a seems low, no? if there aren't enough cranking amps/voltage at startup it can affect the abs system.....interesting.
  16. Marki_GSA

    Marki_GSA Been here awhile

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    The Ah of a battery isn't the same as the cranking power. Apart from that the WC engine has auto decompressors which none of the oilheads ever had. This means that far less power is needed to crank the engine. With cranking power reduced a lot there shouldn't be any problem in a 2Ah reduction in the battery. Not so convinced at the smaller alternator mind you. Will be fine if you have the LED headlight but not so good if you don't and you have a load of accessories.
  17. Kevin Dixon

    Kevin Dixon Motorrad Abenteurer

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    Has anyone gone through the preorder on the new GS yet? I went to the dealer to preorder and I was asked for a deposit and a number in line for the bike when they get there. They didn't have info on arrival dates, colors, options, or anything. Basically he said I was number 8 on the list and when they started showing up they would call in order and if it wasn't the color or option you wanted it would go to the next guy on the list. I'm a bit put off on the whole buying process for this. Just curious if this is the norm or not.
  18. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    Not quit rock solid yet. That is what I thought. Did you look up the Charlie link, it shows a bit of pull to the left, otherwise it's is much much better if I compare to my cruiser, which pulls a lot to the right.
  19. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    Ya, the BMW press materials talk about how the twisting motion has been reduced and it goes the other direction now I think...but that is different from the general vibrations that I was noticing which appear to be dramatically reduced at idle. I see the twisting in the Boorman video, but also notice how smoothly the bike is idling...no shaking of the windshield or mirror.
  20. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

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    While some dealers may tell you differently to gain your order, I think this tends to be the typical process with BMW for new models. The first production runs are simplified and set with standard options and the dealer doesn't have much flexibility in what they can get for the first few allocations.

    Some dealers are also hemmed in by customer expectations (or state law) that deposits are completely refundable. So, from the limited configurations available early in the process, the dealer will order what he thinks is the most sale-able in case he gets stuck with inventory on the floor. Since the customer has made no binding commitment, the dealer feels they shouldn't have to make much commitment to try and get exactly what the customer wants.

    Wait a year and their tune usually changes. And while I think this new GS is going to be the cat's pajamas, this is a radical enough remake to have me on the sidelines for at least a year. Especially with a BMW.

    - Mark