The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. Hunter6

    Hunter6 n00b

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    In Holland €16950. €400 less then the 2012 GS :clap
  2. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    Throttle sync is part of routine maintenance...every 6k on the boxer motors.
  3. marchyman

    marchyman Cam Killer

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    Of idle throttle sync. The idle balance can (and should) be checked, but if it is off by more than 25 mbar BMW says check for air leaks and make sure the valves are the same side-to-side. There is no other adjustment specific to idle balance. That's through '09 models... I assume the camheads are the same. :dunno

    It wouldn't surprise me if the LC bikes are the same, less any off idle throttle cable adjustments.
  4. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    I never said anything about idle balance, just the routine throttle synchronization on camhead and previous boxers. The new water boxer does not require this.
  5. Marki_GSA

    Marki_GSA Long timer

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    I was using the current none udjustable idle sync as an example of how they currently know where the valves should be. I. E they can do it now so they can do it for the whole setup on the new engines. I already stated you can and need to adjust the off idle on the current models because it's mechanical.
  6. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    I am trying to track back to my question to BMW Rep from NJ for him to recommend me to go with Standard GS with low seat option. I had shown my 30" inseam limitation and need for a lowered suspension to him. With Standard, I barely got the bike off the stand and was tippie towing.

    Someone here mentioned that Dynamic ESA is not available with Low suspension for the WC. I searched google and could not find the answer. I wanted to confirm this.

    Called my local dealer, he said with current model ESA is not available with low suspension, but he could not confirm same holds true for the new water cooled GS.

    Does anyone have any answer, or have talked to the BMW rep and gotten any answer whether Dynamic ESA is available with Low Suspension.

    .... I wish I was 6 foot tall, and then I wouldn't have had these problems.
  7. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    It looks like it, but it depends on the diameter of the swingarm. I am guessing yes.

    Jim :brow
  8. Treadless

    Treadless The Panel Beater

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    Have you had the opportunity to mount the h2ohead? I found the seat and seating position much more accommodating to those of us that were short changed in the leg department. And the overall ergos fit me much better than my '05 even with the changes that I made to it. :baldy You may find that the bike may not need to be lowered.

    Oh, and about your question, I have no idea about a lower ESA version.
  9. Dude69

    Dude69 Usurper of Gov'ts

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    30" inseam.. you should be fine on a standard GS. Mine tops out at 29" and I rode an 08 GS and able to ride 800GS and taller bikes...

    Motard stops are the rage... ;)
  10. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    That is amazing. I couldn't even get the F800GS off the side stand. My dealer always had to remind me that 800GS just not or me, but 1200GS is better option.

    I saw one one gentleman at the Long Beach show, about my height and probably same inseam as mine, mounted the bike and was tippie towing. I went before he did, and I was nervous. He said even if he does not flat foot, he's okay with the I pipe tow.
  11. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    Yes, I was able to mount the bike, albeit with BMW Rep from the back to make sure if I lift up and can't touch the ground I didn't wanted it fall. Bi was on the toes an not even the feet balls.
  12. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    5'8" 28" inseam, and I can easily ride an R1200GS Adventure. I rode an R1200GS for several years!

    Jim :brow
  13. oalvarez

    oalvarez Resident Raggamuffin

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    I could easily ride a GSA too (5'10/30") but I surely wouldn't characterize righting it off the side stand as easy, especially when laden with panniers. .
  14. Loutre

    Loutre Cosmopolitan Adv

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    There always are options for the f800gs like a lower seat, dealing with the fork and the suspension. you can gain about 7cms
  15. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    F800Gs is way too tall for me. Not an option. I found R1200GS to be lower than 800GS.
  16. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    Back to my original question - in the new water cooled R1200GS, is Dynamic ESA available for low suspension? Dealers don't have this info until March 2013 when they go to Morocco. Has anyone gotten any word from BMW while at the show?
  17. Lcolton_BMWVC

    Lcolton_BMWVC Poor College Student

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    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say thats gonna probably be a no. Since the ESA option has been available, it has never been able to be combined with ESA. That goes for the RT, R12R, R12GS, and even now the F700/800GS's. I would not count on it.



    **I will check on the build site to see if both options can be added together, in the morning...
  18. RichBMW

    RichBMW Long timer

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    Prices now announced in the UK:clap

    R1200GS - £11,395 - includes ABS, Hand guards, L & R Pannier Fastenings but everything else is an option

    R1200GS Enduro - £12,435 - c/w Enduro ASC with Enduro ABS, Rain, Road, Dynamic, Enduro & Enduro Pro-riding modes
    Daytime Running Lights
    Cruise Control
    Cross Spoke Wheels
    Hand guards
    L & R Pannier Fastenings

    R1200GS Touring - £13,815 -
    Heated Grips
    Tyre Pressure Control
    Led White indicators
    Enduro ASC with Enduro ABS, Rain, Road, Dynamic, Enduro & Enduro Pro riding modes & Dynamic ESA (semi active suspension system)
    LED Headlight with Daytime Riding Light and twin bar rear light
    On-Board Computer Pro
    Preparation for GPS
    Chrome plated Exhaust system
    Cruise Control
    Hand guards
    L & R Pannier Fastenings

    The Touring is going to be the big seller; 85% of all previous R1200GS's had the Dynamic & Premium packs on & the Touring is the equivalent.
  19. Lcolton_BMWVC

    Lcolton_BMWVC Poor College Student

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    Shows how much I know. On BMWs order site today it let me add options 191 Dynamic ESA and option 499 Low Suspension.

    It is still early for a deffinative answer, but it appears as though BMW has finally figured out ESA and low suspension... :clap
  20. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    Holy Smokes Batman! You da man. You have given me hope.

    I like to at least flat foot as much as possible. With enduro riding especially, you will not always have a leveled surface, mostly it would be very uneven.

    Flat footing on my current bike, I can relax while stopped and sitting on the bike for good 20 minutes.