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Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.
too much blue smoke on that start up. doesn't appear they totally fixed the oil consumption problem.
I think we are all quite excited about the bike and one little thing we hear, we start o dissect. Nothing wrong with that, I am glad that we are hashing everything, 'cause that keeps me entertained.
My take on these two issues - sound and smoke are that it's premature for any conclusion. I like the leaf blower sound at idle, not sure If I like the reving sound though. Of course recording devices make a big difference as someone already pointed out.
When riding you won't necessarily hear it with ear plugs, so it doesn't matter. But then again, there is Akropovic (sp) exhaust to fancy your needs.
Pretty hard to fix that on this engine design. Big variations in crankcase pressure (from the pistons' boxing), and a combustion chamber that is gravity-fed oil when the bike is on the sidestand.
The amazing thing is that they drink so little oil.
It depends, but it could be my old designed bike.
On 2004 R1200C, when I stop the engine, I stay on it for about 30-60 seconds and then put it on the side stand, to allow oil to drain below instead into the left cylinder. This consumes less oil. Now if I put it on the side stand immediately after turning ignition off, it can consume about a quart for 3,000 miles. Furthermore, it also becomes little harder to start due to accumulation of oil in the cylinder.
What problem? I've owned oilheads/hexheads since 1995 and have only added oil one time between changes.
You must change it a lot
I have a R1200GSA and an HP2 Sport, neither burns any measurable amount of oil. The HP2 was raced for half it's life (before I got it) and it shows no change in oil level in the 4-5000 kms that I put on it each year. The GSA is changed at 10,000 km intervals and it hasn't used oil since the first 8000. My K100RS goes 7500 kms between changes and the drop in oil level at the sight glass is also not measurable. Just don't park it on the side stand, especially after making a hard left turn. If you allow it to cool down a bit chances are you will see some serious blue smoke - along the lines of an old ringding two stroke from the 60's.
That picture looks just like a space alien standing on a flying wasser-boxer, warding off all foes with palm-beam death rays.
The death rays will be an option in the USA. Or so I hear.
It looks like the inside of my balls.
. . .as far as my imagination is concerned. I've never actually looked inside my balls.
Pending DOT approval
If your current boxer uses a lot of oil it either hasn't done at least 12000 miles or it was pampered too much when it was being ran in. Boxer engines that have been pampered too much will always burn oil and there is only one way to fix it. Get the bores honed and re-ring it then give it some while breaking it in.
The R-series have always been hit or miss on oil consumption. Some use a lot, some use very little.
I am convinced that oil consumption has everything to do with breakin.
KTMs 950s and 990s are famous for their oil consumption.
I followed a severe schedule I was told about - I broke it in hard for 100 miles and then just rode it.
The worst oil consumption I had was half a quart in 6,000 miles.
After that, there was no usage.
Best "personal" break-in process...
Baby the engine the first 200 miles... constantly change rev ranges
Next step... ride each gear to the rev limit to help seat the rings...
The GS will consume oil for first 3000ish miles.. then stop... ran my 08 GSA through her paces and she didn't consume a drop to AK and back... didn't even change the oil til I returned...
I'm pricing unveiled at 11395 pounds for base model, that's about $18500 USD. Owch.
Are they accepting orders yet?
I"m not sure what you just said, but if you are trying to derive a US price from the UK you can't translate from other countries to get a US price. Try it for the previous GS and see. Fact is in most countries, the new GS is being sold for same price as the old GS. I think that is the best metric you can go by at this point.
You absolutely SURE you'd want to purchase one after MOTORRAD's stupidity.
Not a single rider outside of the EU was selected. 5 possible winners.