The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    Pending DOT approval :wink:
  2. Marki_GSA

    Marki_GSA Been here awhile

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    If your current boxer uses a lot of oil it either hasn't done at least 12000 miles or it was pampered too much when it was being ran in. Boxer engines that have been pampered too much will always burn oil and there is only one way to fix it. Get the bores honed and re-ring it then give it some while breaking it in.
  3. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    The R-series have always been hit or miss on oil consumption. Some use a lot, some use very little.

    Jim :brow
  4. 6USMC6

    6USMC6 R.I.P. Party Boss

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    I am convinced that oil consumption has everything to do with breakin.

    KTMs 950s and 990s are famous for their oil consumption.

    I followed a severe schedule I was told about - I broke it in hard for 100 miles and then just rode it.

    The worst oil consumption I had was half a quart in 6,000 miles.

    After that, there was no usage.
  5. Dude69

    Dude69 Usurper of Gov'ts

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    Best "personal" break-in process...

    Baby the engine the first 200 miles... constantly change rev ranges
    Next step... ride each gear to the rev limit to help seat the rings...

    The GS will consume oil for first 3000ish miles.. then stop... ran my 08 GSA through her paces and she didn't consume a drop to AK and back... didn't even change the oil til I returned...
  6. Darkjedip

    Darkjedip Designated Thread Killer

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    I'm pricing unveiled at 11395 pounds for base model, that's about $18500 USD. Owch.
  7. little foot

    little foot Scratch and Sniff

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    Are they accepting orders yet?
  8. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    I"m not sure what you just said, but if you are trying to derive a US price from the UK you can't translate from other countries to get a US price. Try it for the previous GS and see. Fact is in most countries, the new GS is being sold for same price as the old GS. I think that is the best metric you can go by at this point.
  9. LaurelPerryOnLand

    LaurelPerryOnLand Long timer

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    You absolutely SURE you'd want to purchase one after MOTORRAD's stupidity.
    Not a single rider outside of the EU was selected. 5 possible winners.

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=849739
  10. oalvarez

    oalvarez Resident Raggamuffin

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    doesn't have the slightest impact on how i view the new water cooled GS nor the BMW corporation.

    looking forward to test riding it next spring. :deal
  11. GSMarc

    GSMarc Long timer

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    Does somebody knows the "dry weight" of the new GS ? :ear
  12. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    The press release shows 524 pounds ready to ride (wet). Not sure of dry weight.
  13. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    I know BMW posts the dry weight, however, I have always questioned what's the purpose of dry weight, for comparison. Comparison to what? You can't ride a bike with dry weight. To me, personally I look for all fluids along with gasoline (petrol) filled and ready to ride.

    I suppose it will come handy if other manufacturers only post dry weight.
  14. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    I agree and there is no formal definition of 'dry'. I hear some manufacturers exclude the battery on dry weight for example.
  15. GSMarc

    GSMarc Long timer

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    I can understand your arguments.

    But, if you want to buy a R1200GS or a R1200GSA, the wet weight doesn't give you a clear weight gap because the tank is larger on the ADV and perhaps some parts are also heavier.

    It is also supposed that BMW weights his bikes in the same way and this implies the dry weight has some meaning (in same brand).

    My question was : dry weight WC to be compared to R1200GS DOHC 203 kg (447 lbs) keeping in mind that the WC has an ABS in standard equipment.

    By the way, what is the weight of the WC ABS ?
  16. EJ_92606

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    Gas weighs about 7 lbs/gallon, so very easy to do the math on the tank size/weight of gas between the GS and GSA. The GSA is a GS with bigger tank and some extra equipment, so not sure what you are getting at by wanting to know the weight of a GSA without the extra gas and equipment....its going to equal a GS.
  17. GSMarc

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    you are right, the dry weight will show how much "dead weight" there is between the 2 models out of the box.

    The strange thing is that dry weight is given for all models but not for the new GS.

    For me, the weight is one of the main variable for a bike, specially if you want to go in various environments.
  18. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    As an engineer, when actual data is not available, you try to approximate as close as possible and leave some room for error. In this case I would find the difference in weight of current model 2012 GS/GSA using "dry", and do the same for "wet". Now you have 2 weights. Add 1-2 lbs for ABS (chime in guys if I am wrong in my ABS approximation). We are assuming that GSA gas tank will remain same as current. In the new, they might shave off 1-2 lbs using stronger and lighter plastics. This will cancel with weight added due to ABS. To approximate the wet weight of a new GSA, add the wet difference to new 2013 GS model. So there you have it. Similarly you could approximate dry weight backwards.
  19. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    Yes, but it becomes fixed variable, you can't decrease it but will only increase due to farkling etc. No matter which environment you go on the globe, it will remain static. Am I missing something here? Perhaps you are trying to figure out something that we don't know :dunno
  20. GSMarc

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    :D
    main variable for making your choice to buy or not... :evil

    Why do you believe I have only HP2... :lol3:lol3