The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. Andrew

    Andrew Optimus Primer Super Moderator

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    I'm late to the party. RL's pictures started at post 2593, on page 173... fantastic, thanks RL.
    Lots to digest there, I got some catching up to do.
  2. RichBMW

    RichBMW Long timer

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    7 weeks and 6 days to go:clap:lol3
  3. markjenn

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    Cruiser tires? Are you objecting to the extra width?

    - Mark
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    Loutre Cosmopolitan Adv

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    Maybe the profile of the new anakee 3 :puke1
  5. Bails

    Bails Been here awhile

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    The cruiser tire are for the american market,
  6. 6USMC6

    6USMC6 R.I.P. Party Boss

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    KTM has done the same stupid thing with the new 1190 Adventure.

    The first thing Joe Pilcher did before he left for Madagascar was have the hubs re-laced to 990 size rims.
  7. cug

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    Should have bought the Adventure R then ...
  8. tallguy-09

    tallguy-09 Smile 4 Miles

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    According to German "Motorrad" the new engine is better than the old one (of course).
    They compared the 2013 GS on paper with 8 contenders and of course only the GS has no defficiencies (red points), all is green :-)
    - quicker revving engine
    - better engine sound
    - better shaft drive
    - even lower weight
    - full electronics program

    ...
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    6USMC6 R.I.P. Party Boss

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    He does have an R and it has the same silly-assed wide rims.

  10. slowinfastout

    slowinfastout Just Ridin' By....

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    I am amused by this...

    I have owned both a R1200GS and a KTM 990 Adventure. The KTM is absolutely and unquestionably totally superior for a big bore twin dirt bike as soon as you leave the pavement. It's not even close. However, the GS is by far the better road bike. Long distance rides on the KTM 990 Adventure on blacktop were not fun.

    Stick either one into a mud bog or launch one into a ravine 6 feet down from the trail and you will realize that both really suck as dirt bikes. They are both FAR too heavy to extract without a small army or winch to help. Been there, done that on both as well.

    For the record the new GS (which I LOVE!) has the fuel tank down low, its the airbox that is on top now.
  11. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    I think you misunderstood my post..... :huh
  12. cug

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    6USMC6 R.I.P. Party Boss

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    The available rims are over wide.

    From Joe's thread on ADV:

    [​IMG] Joe Pichler
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    I'll use the Pirelli Sorpion Rally 90/90 21" and 140/80 18"
    The same tyres I've used on the 950/990 Adventure.

    I'll also change the rims to the same rims with I have used he last years.

    This is 2,50 inch on the rear and 1,85 on the front.


    I've been yust riding 300 km with the new bike, so its hard to say how many miles you can go on one tank.
    But a lot more then with the old one. In normal conditions I think it should be around 400 km or even more, but we'll see.
  14. cug

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    So what you're saying is that the difference between a 150/70-18 is so much over a 140/80-18 that you call it over wide? Sorry, I'm not following. The front tires are the same, so likely no discussion there, right?

    But as this isn't the KTM thread, we should discuss via PM or so.
  15. kindofblue

    kindofblue Ride it like you stole it

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    Better engine & shaft drive than the Triumph Tiger? The 2013 will have to be a lot better engine/drive than the previous generation for this to be true.

    The only audio clip I've heard was on this thread from a bike show. When the guy hit the throttle the muffler sounded like someone was passing gas :puke1

  16. RL Lemke

    RL Lemke Long timer

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    Here is the link to 204 BMW pressroom photos of the new GS: http://rllemke.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/New-GS/25703460_CwhCzw#!i=2124379647&k=PGXSCn2

    There may be a duplicate or two though.

    These are the full sized jpegs offered to the magazines. Much easier to see them with SmugMug than the press site BMW has.

    As a K1600GT owner, and having a strong interest in getting the new GS, I took the time with Photoshop to scale the power output of the new GS and K16 onto one image.

    (N.B.: The two different output lines for the K1600 shows the lower output when the engine is in Rain Mode.)

    [​IMG]
  17. Pcfly

    Pcfly Dude?! Seriously??

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    :lol3 They're German......what else are they going to say?! Aiy.......more powder is not better for stress in thy shaft??? :poser

    Amazing how much B.S. has been said about a bike nobodies ridden & crashed........give it two years and we'll see how AMAZING all these green points are in the hands of NON-subscription selling magazine editors and staff.

    As a counter point.....Honda hasn't changed the XR650 since 1901 and people still use it reliably off & on road.......What are it's Red points?!

    AND for the KTM guys......your new 1190 is being turned into a GS......19inch front tire?! :jack



    Common people, don't you think all this is half amusing?? Just go ride......it's better for your fingers then typing.
  18. wasserhead

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    Based on available info, I cannot tell if with the low suspension some of the safety/ride options (ESA, ASC, etc.) will be unavailable. Obviously, that is the case with the F700/800, but I don't believe that is necessarily so for this new 1200. Thanks.
  19. KMC1

    KMC1 There is no spoon.

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    I'm going to buy an 1190 and a waterhead and put TW200 tires and rims on them both.

    :evil
  20. GB

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    Marketing hype is what sells bikes and creates a (free) promotional buzz on bike forums and in the riding community, not to mention bragging rights to early adopters / beta testers. :lol3

    That's what moto mags do.. pump and hype, heap praise and fluff any shortcomings, especially for products from big advertisers. I have no doubt that the new GS will be a very good bike. But there's so many good ADV bikes out now, it's given us a lot of choice and has put pressure on bmw. For example, for years, riders have been clamoring for factory cruise control on the GS, now that Triumph has it on their Explorer, the GS will be offered with it. That's good for riders like us who cross the north american continent on the superslab to get to the good riding, and none of us are getting younger!