The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. JimVonBaden

    JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid!

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    If you guys ae not going to call it a "WetHead", at least spell out "Water Cooled" insead of calling it a"WC". A WC is a water closet, or toilet room.:deal

    Besides, are not MOST bikes water cooled? :dunno

    Jim :brow
  2. GB

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    I'm not seeing an FD from the K1600. the K1600 final drive has no open hole in the middle like the one on the GS.

    The French video a few posts back says the transmission is smooth "like on a Japanese bike"...

    Getrag no longer provides the tranny?
  3. erkmania

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    I read elsewhere that Getrag is out of the motorcycle transmission business. The new boxes are apparently made in Japan. Equally interesting is that the clutch may be the same as one in a KTM (I think - hearsay disclaimer).
  4. Gros Buck

    Gros Buck Beef = Packed Vegetables

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    As far as I know KTM uses Adler clutches ... http://www.adler.it/

    Paul Jr
  5. EJ_92606

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    Not sure about KTM but it is the same clutch as is used in the S1000RR. And I heard the same thing about Japanese transmission...made by the same company that makes Honda transmissions.
  6. GB

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    that's good... Did they also get the driveshaft / final drive designed in Japan like Triumph did? :lol3
  7. tallguy-09

    tallguy-09 Smile 4 Miles

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    I think possibly one year after the GS intro?
  8. stretchmoney

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    I thought all the BMW boxer bikes used a diaphragm spring car style clutch, I would be sure the S1000rr uses a typical "motorcycle style clutch".
    Start correcting me now.
  9. erkmania

    erkmania Still Adventuring

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    What, you have on objection to transmissions designed on Pluto? :norton :D
  10. erkmania

    erkmania Still Adventuring

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    You're absolutely correct, but only for a few minutes longer. The March release of the WC-R-GS changes that. :deal
  11. JustKip

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    Dammit Jim!
    That's gonna leave a lasting mark...As an international indicator of a toilet room, I hope "WC" don't stick as a moniker for the new boxer.
  12. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    New water boxer uses a conventional moto style wet clutch. Previous boxers used a car style clutch.
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    I went back several pages and can't find if the valve check intervals are further out than 6K on the new model. Anyone know? Thanks
  14. tallguy-09

    tallguy-09 Smile 4 Miles

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    The new WC GS MC must be better than the old one. Something would be wrong with the way I look at this world if that would be any different :-)
  15. oalvarez

    oalvarez Resident Raggamuffin

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    Exactly my thoughts too.. In my opinion the new GS is going to be a much better package, and yes, relative value is for the prospective owner to decide. It will make more power, the on-road feel should be much improved (impossible for it not to be given the new components), and then you have the LIST of items beyond what Motard points to (engine, frame, and trans re-design, chassis length, wheel dimensions, etc) which go to justify some of the difference in price. I really think that it's going to be a MUCH better on-road motorcycle which will create a much more enjoyable riding experience versus the GS of today. Worth the difference in price? I think so. Do I want to pay for that difference? I don't know yet myself. :1drink
  16. Dracula

    Dracula Deus ex machina

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    I'd like to know how they protect the water cooling radiators. To my eye, they stick out exactly in a most sensitive place. A tip over may not be a problem as it will rest on engine crash guard, but topple further and radiator will be next.
    Would the boxer make it with just oil air/cooling to the next village.
  17. EJ_92606

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    been discussed ad naseum earlier in this thread....I think most of us are worn out talking about it.
  18. JimVonBaden

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    The heads are remarkably similar to the Camhead, so I suspect that the valve check intervals will be the same. I don't remember any official word on it.

    Jim :brow
  19. tallguy-09

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    At one time I'm sure BMW will find a way to eliminate that procedure altogether but I think it's not that easy with the mandate to keep head height in check.
  20. MHaz01

    MHaz01 I Used To Be Faster

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    The WC model that can be used for major off-roading will be called the WC Fields version.:evil