The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. ShaftEd

    ShaftEd Long timer

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    I'm not saying that the Kevin Ash incident had anything to do with a bike problem. We simply don't know. I am saying more than one journalist reported unstable behavior while standing up and hitting washboard surfaces. As a probable Wethead owner, this concerns me. I've got 115,000 miles on my 2007 12GS. It's done thousands of miles of dirt, and it certainly never exhibited this behavior.

    We obviously need more input from more ride tests, both on and off road. I'm sure the bike magazines are probably in testing right now for upcoming publications. The new dynamic suspension also concerns me. It sounds awesome, but I still have a few questions on long term use. What happens on a failure, such as a cut wire to the shock. Does it resort to a baseline setting for safety or what. I'm sure it won't resort to no damping, but I just don't know. Like I said, I'll wait and see how things go.
  2. cug

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    There's an easy solution to that: buy one with standard suspension.
  3. ShaftEd

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    That's not the solution. Like I said, it sounds great. A new technology that can make suspension better than ever. I has immense possibilities for the future. I would just like to know what I'm getting into. Nothing wrong with a little knowledge. Once I know the facts, then I can make my own decision for what will work best over the long term for me.
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    Actually it is. You'll never know "the facts" until the bike is on the market for a few years and people have actually ridden the bike all over the place and we have longterm numbers on reliability and maintenance for these components.

    If you're concerned about complexity, buy a KLR and leave the GS to people that aren't concerned about complexity and don't care all too much what they're getting into or trust BMW/Sachs to build a system that works.
  5. JimVonBaden

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    A single rider out of dozens of unknown offroad skill, or even BMW MC experience, reports a minor perceived issue, and another who crashes under completely unknown circumstances, and some of you are acting like the bike has a fatal flaw and are yelling recall already? :huh

    Jim :brow
  6. tallguy-09

    tallguy-09 Smile 4 Miles

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    Agree, this is completely insane, the Interweb going crazy!
  7. I GS 1

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    That looks like the pre launch testing and filming of promo material they did in Kenya. There are some nice shots in it. Thanks
  8. ShaftEd

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    Two journalists reported it. One U.S. and a Canadian. Read the reports. It scared the hell out of one. It didn't sound "minor" at all.

    I didn't say anything about a recall. Just something to be aware of.
  9. JimVonBaden

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    I wasn't pointing out you Ed.

    As for the reports, the normal journalist who has little BMW experience always freaks about the telelever. I'm not putting much stock into it untill some of us ride it.

    Jim :brow
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    I can't buy a KLR, there's no milk crate in the Touratech catalog.:deal:1drink
  11. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    Curios Rich, you spent money in $$, but you live in UK, or was it in £?
  12. Montauk

    Montauk Been here awhile

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    With due respect, and not necessarily backing RichBMW, we are all very sorry for a loss of a life, however, like anything, life continues to move along. We have to be strong to over come this tragedy.
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    Montauk Been here awhile

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    I would expect a different description to denote swapped sides, as the new Wasserstein Boxer has exhaust on the opposite side compared to current model. My take is that they are probably same hardware, features, etc.
  14. RichBMW

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    At last, someone speaks sense:clap
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    Nope, I ordered in £, just translated into $ for you lot:D
  16. markjenn

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    Just to put some specificity to this discussion of possible handling issues with the new GS, here is the quote from the Bike magazine article:

    "The only unpleasant shock during the while 280-mile ride is a tankslapper so violent it snaps the lockstops off the frame. BMW chassis engineers seemed shocked to hear of it, claiming they never experienced anything of the sort in five long years and one million kilometers of testing. It does seem that I just happen to have stumbled on exactly the wrong combination of speed and road surface at the wrong time. Assuming it really is just a one-off - which, in all fairness, would appear to be the most likely explanation - then the new R1200GS is a remarkable machine."
    You guys can argue about whether worrying about something like this with the amount of data we have is prudent or chicken-little.

    - Mark
  17. Mav

    Mav Something witty...

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    I notice he/she makes no reference to the impact to the "wrong combination" by the riders ability (or lack of), or the speed he was going at...

    To snap the lock stops off and not wipeout would be quite something... but if there was a wipeout, is it not possible (more likely) they got broken off as the bike went down?
  18. markjenn

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    It's actually more common than you'd think. Tankslappers have a natural oscillation frequency at specific speeds and the bike will decel just enough during the slapper to fall out of the zone and re-stabilize.

    Regardless, it IS ridiculously scary if you have it happen to you.

    - Mark
  19. BordenBmw

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    New report!:1drink


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  20. IB1

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    Reading this doesn't scare me. I am quite sure mine will behave very well. :deal