The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    I don't understand why they complicate things.

    There are two important dates for the life of a vehicle.
    1) ITS PRODUCTION as also posted within its VIN. THIS is how the factory (and the normal world) knows what model it is, what spares it should use, what updates are needed in case of recalls etc. (recalls DO take place based on VIN ranges anyway)

    2) ITS FIRST SALE to an end customer, when it gets its first (and usually only) license plates. This is when the warranty starts (whatever this means) - which also relates to if the model is current or at least close to current (because if someone managed to find a 1100GS UNUSED in a BMW shop, I doubt it would have a BMW official warranty, maybe I am wrong though because this is BMW after all :evil).

    At least in Europe both those things (along with many other things) are printed on the vehicle ID papers.
    "Model year" is an arbitrary thing of the New World, I don't understand why it even exists.

    In BMW Motorrad, this is proven to be wrong, as aside from "major" updates (the oilhead had 2 major updates), within the years are continuous minor updates, which easily translate to different spares etc.
    My own GS is such an example. I cannot specify "model year" as my exact model was only produced for a few months (less than one year). It is the last GS before the first face-lift (which also gave 5HP to the engine), but DID have an (bit) updated shaft, didn't have servo brakes and had ASC (things that are normally accredited to the model with the first face-lift). So... Doesn't make to much sense to talk about a model year.

    Any more news on topic? :)

    Edit: A minor news update that concerns my country. Seems it is available to see (and demo?) already in Greece. I haven't seen it yet, but people reported at least two BMW shops have them.
    I wonder how many can purchase a new GS here... Even with trading their own (which sucks here anyway as there are HUGE numbers of second/third-hand GSes...). Stupid people (like myself) bought it new.
  2. SharkMan77

    SharkMan77 Shark on land...

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    Hey NLS,
    Yes it's true! I stumbled upon the first one to arrive in Greece this Wednesday:clap, while doing the 6k (10k km) service to my Adventure...

    [​IMG]

    Sadly no demo yet...:cry
    Cheers,
    George
  3. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Hi George. At Panagiotopoulos I see.

    If not a demo, what do they have it there for?
    Except if IT IS for demo but first they are running it in.
    (good thing to do, because some shops don't do it I hear for the first 1000Km)

    Anything else they told you about it?
  4. RichBMW

    RichBMW Long timer

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    Oh man, that looks sweet!:evil That is EXACTLY the bike that I have on order:wings:wings:wings
  5. IB1

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    Same colour as here. But I chose for different wheels.
    The tires are different from the ones that were on it at the carshow here.
  6. RichBMW

    RichBMW Long timer

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    I was torn between spokes and cast, and went for the cast wheels, as mine will be staying on the tarmac. IMO they look much better than the cast wheels on the twin cam GS.
  7. IB1

    IB1 Long timer

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    Mine will also stay on tarmac, but I chose the wire spokes to give it a timeless look. The Cast wheels also look good, but I might find them boring after 2 years.
    Besides, for the 'look' of the bike I am going a bit more off-road. Crash bars, fog lights, ...
  8. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    The new spokes are also nicer than the old ones (actually the wheel centers).

    I know there was significant weight difference between spokes and cast in current model (I went for spokes), with the cast being lighter. I wonder about the wight difference now.
  9. SharkMan77

    SharkMan77 Shark on land...

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    Hi,
    Sadly no demos until March, or late February if we're lucky...:cry
    If you want to "see" one up close :evil, they have one in Kifisias as well, since yesterday!

    Cheers,
    George
  10. alvarom

    alvarom n00b

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    We have a leak of the new GSA!!!

    [​IMG]


  11. paulW

    paulW Been here awhile

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    That is an old picture of the R1200GS WC in disguise, sorry to disappoint :gerg
  12. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Erm... nope.

    This is one of the oldest leaks for the normal GS.
    This is a normal GS but covered under much "anti-spy" sh*t.
  13. alvarom

    alvarom n00b

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    :(


  14. 268

    268 Been here awhile

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    Looks like the tires are the new metzelers
  15. RichBMW

    RichBMW Long timer

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    Damn, I had a call from my dealer to say that they can supply the bike with Touratech Zega Pro metal panniers and racks instead of the Varios. Works out at another £400 ($640 ish) difference in price. Should I do it? More protection I guess.:evil
  16. RichBMW

    RichBMW Long timer

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    Can someone with photoshop show me what this bike will look like with the adventure style metal pannier frames?
  17. oalvarez

    oalvarez Resident Raggamuffin

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    You're not joking are you....
  18. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    Not true, the front wheels were identical in weight and the rear cast was ever so slightly lighter.
  19. dmac57

    dmac57 Long timer

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    I'm sure I'm not the first to say


    Yes.
  20. RichBMW

    RichBMW Long timer

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    Why? If I'm about to drop over $1700 on a set of panniers and frames, and the only pictures on the Touratch site are of the bike with panniers attached, I'm interested to see how it looks with the frames.:ksteve