The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. Rauven

    Rauven I like the cold...

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    Aren't we in the same time zone ? ;)

    Same here :) Or actually I get a tax return for commuting to work not dependent on the vehicle. It's just based on the distance I have to commute in a year. As well can be on a cool bike ;)

    With I can thing. So true. I answer always cracked me up, in Pimp My Ride one of the mechanics said "You might ask me why did I put 9 LCD tvs in the floor and one under the car... Well... Because I can !" And that sums it up ;)
  2. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    No we have an hour difference. Still I would be lying to give such an excuse. It's not like we are half day apart.
  3. IB1

    IB1 Long timer

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    Here cars can also be included in the tax return, but they are limited to 0.15€/km. For a motorcycle you can put all your costs into the return. It gets quite interesting if you play it like that.
  4. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    To return to the bike...

    I just noticed (on the very nice engine render video), that the cylinders are LDS coated (...erm... from "Lichtbogendrahtspritzen" apparently).

    LDS AFAIK is used in a few performance Mercedes (AMG) and BMW cars for a few years. It is a process that allows for thinner cylinder walls (even half thick!) allowing greater thermal transfer, so allowing the engine to run hotter (and cool faster). Nice.

    Of course we should expect the classic 1150 (or 1100) owner, any second now, claiming that this makes the cylinder heads less tough or something.
    Are they using their GS as battering ram or what? Well my right cylinder (plus guards) has survived drops, one car directly hitting ON it -saving my leg - and a car door hit edge-first (!), again saving my leg... haven't even replaced the scratched cover.
  5. AA5IB

    AA5IB Wannabe Adventurer

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    I did.
  6. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Me too.
  7. 7mary4

    7mary4 Ponch

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    I am surprised you don't know your motorcycle TV trivia.
  8. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Sorry that I keep bringing up the topic: You know... BMW R1200GS 2013...

    Seems that the reviews that pile up have improved the percentage of people that haven't noticed the vibration (to tank slapping) alleged issue to those who did.
    Good thing. I am sure, after Morocco presentation we'll have more data.

    I want to bring up something else though... I wonder if Ash's death is related to the recall. I mean... oil on the wheels can get you killed even going straight. Far fetched? Possibly. Leaving us in the dark though, doesn't help.

    (it is a fixed issue though if this makes you feel better)

    Anybody know who was the second rider that seems to have hit Kevin's dropped GS?
    Maybe he has published more data about the incident?

    EDIT: I tried to find updated info. I read two contradicting reports. First says that Kevin being third in the convoy, hit the dropped bike of the second in convoy, who had a dislocated shoulder and broken finger or something. The fourth in the convoy was the first to try to help. Second report is that Kevin dropped the bike (common in a launch btw... on road or off road), got up and the following rider hit him... Completely contradicting, yet both don't seem to directly relate to any bike (alleged) shortcomings. (*)

    (*) One guy commented on the second report (where I found it) that this proves that GS is just a big tourer. OK man you are clueless (I was tempted to register there just to post that). Not because GS is or isn't capable off-road, but because a bike drop on an off-road course is not uncommon with ANY kind and even pure off-road bikes. It is usually part of the fun.
  9. paulW

    paulW Been here awhile

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  10. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Indeed a copy. Possibly an October article.
    I enjoyed ignoring it. :D

    Safely ignore this too:

    http://emotodigital.com/2013-bmw-r1200gs-review/

    ...they call it "review" (!?!?!?). It is just like a paragraph and full of mistakes about the bike (they couldn't even copy BMW press release properly).
  11. khale

    khale ride dirty

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    Interested to know more about this. Are you a contracted/freelancer? If so, I can see how part of the purchase can be written off. If on a W-2, I don't think you can do that...
  12. T@z

    T@z Belgian beers drinker

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    In Belgium it's allowed for any worker using a motorbike to commute.
  13. khale

    khale ride dirty

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    ah, Belgium, makes sense! Thanks!
  14. ShaftEd

    ShaftEd Long timer

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    Other rider involved was Alun Davies from adventurebikerider.com. Sounds like he crashed while trying to avoid Kevin's crash. Apparently, very dusty conditions made it difficult to avoid the incident. Alun has been offline other than to say he is back in the UK now and recovering.

    Maybe we'll get the details someday, but I've certainly been off road with a big group and huge dust clouds obscuring sight lines. Almost anything can happen. Leads me to believe more and more that whatever happened, it will turn out not to be bike related.
  15. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Thanks.
  16. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

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    It is a common misconception that "everything emissions related" is covered under the 80K emissions warranty. In actuality, each car has a specific list of things that are covered and they're generally only the big ticket items (cats, ECU, etc.) and a few sensors. Anything maintenance-related is not covered.

    - Mark
  17. shay

    shay reading is hard

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    How necessary are the electronic suspension and riding modes? Serious Q, I'm currently riding a 2006 vfr, which has abs only.

    The electronic / riding modes are a couple of thousand onto the base price, the dynamic package is €2,800 on base price in Ireland.

    For a bike which makes 120 hp, I think?, is traction control / rain mode a necessity? I've never owned a bike with any riding modes or electronic suspension adjustments and would genuinely like to know if inmates think they are worth paying for?

    I'm going to buy either the bmw 1200 or ktm 1190 and am following both threads here. The Irish motorbike show is on March 1-3, and test rides should be available after that weekend. I know the ktm dealer is only importing the 1190 with the electronic package, I'm not sure if a base bmw will be available or for special order only.
  18. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

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    It depends doesn't it. In the case of my bike, it is definitely good to have when you fit knobs. (The tires that is).

    If you never fit anything but street tires and they are "sticky" then the torque may not break traction unless you are trying.

    However is you are using it as a "all roads bike" it comes in handy, especially on long rides on semi street tires when you don't want to spend 8 hours concentrating hard on marginal surfaces. You let the bike's brains concentrate a bit on that and you look out for the rest.

    If you only ride a few hours on dry days on street tires you are getting less "value" I would say.
  19. EJ_92606

    EJ_92606 Rider

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    Given that none of us have ridden the bike I don't think you're going to receive a good answer to your question. Check the numerous reviews that have been published in the last few weeks as that is all we have to go on at this point.
  20. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    Years of riding without traction control taught me to use the throttle judiciously in slippery conditions so for me it's not a must-have. But I don't mind having it either on the S10, I'm sure it will prove useful offroad.