The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Dorsicano, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. PatrickM

    PatrickM Been here awhile

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    Honestly, looked black to me. The Rallye is the red white and blue one.

    Both were for sale with the hang tags.
  2. Bazgab

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    Sounds like both were oilheads, the only colors for the new WC ones are Red, Blue, White, and a dark Grey.
  3. dmac57

    dmac57 Long timer

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    +1
  4. Rauven

    Rauven I like the cold...

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    With the cost, probably to some extent. If you take the price of the bike without taxes it's more or less the same as in the rest of Europe. It's the environmental and import tax that make the price ridiculous. Gas costs around 14NOK/liter.

    It's really hard to say what extent of extra warranty cost is paid by the customers. In case of other products that require prolonged warranty (electronics etc.) there is no price difference.
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    I GS 1 I 90S I

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    Oops. Head shake territory up ahead. Herbie makes no mention of it. Maybe he was too busy smiling to notice the head shake :)
  6. Deans BMW

    Deans BMW Granpa Hoon

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    Just an FYI.

    Warrenty is nothing more than an insurance policy wheather it is bought on the open market or self insured, as is the case on warrentes on a new vehicle. The vehicle price to a dealer is a function of the cost of this warrenty, so a 5 year government mandated new vehicle warrenty adds to the whosale price of the vehicle. Nothing is free, you pay for it one way or the other.
  7. Deans BMW

    Deans BMW Granpa Hoon

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    In addition, each country's distributor negotiates a different deal with the manufacturer with many factors coming to play, to name a few, liability, required warranties, import taxes, etc.
  8. tagesk

    tagesk Tuscan rider

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    The longer the warranty, the cost of maintenence becomes visible as the time of purchase. Which means that the maker is inclined to make the mainteinence as low as possible.
    Or, if you like: The quality of two identical-looking vechicles will be visible in that the lower-quality vehicle will be more, not less, expensive to cover the cost of future repair.

    This is why long guarantees must be enforced; makers of vehicles don't want them.
    In general, what the makers don't want is good for us consumers.

    [TaSK]
  9. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    EJ_92606 Rider

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    I heard from my dealer (California) who will be going. I think it's another press event in late February and then dealer event in early March at the same location in Morocco.
  11. NLS

    NLS My bike needs washing...

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    Really pushing this bike or really pushing this bike?

    I think we are looking for the model that will break the record sales of the "original" 12GS.
    Only reason not to, is world crisis.
  12. bobobob

    bobobob badbadbad

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    At 5.47 NOK to the dollar that comes to $10.23 a gallon. :eek1
  13. SocalRob

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    Dean,

    In CA the smog warranty on our cars covers pretty much everything emissions related until I think at least 80,000 miles or 8 years, IIRC. If bikes come under the same rules, (and the state is making noise about it) what do you see as the impact on warranties? Emissions stuff means if your car fails a smog check, its pretty likely its a warranty item. If you think about it, that covers a lot of stuff. Pretty much the whole fuel injection system, catalytic converter, oxygen sensor, and more. In essence, the engine better not be polluting above limits for the 8 years/80K miles.

    I think all that adds about $150 to the price of a car. Wonder what it will do to the price of a bike?
  14. cug

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    Is there any emission testing done on bikes? Or did I never own one long enough to find out? :lol3
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    Not yet, but I would not be surprized to see it coming. I think 2013 is the last year we can alter exhaust pipes.:eek1
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  17. PatrickM

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    The dark one looked like this:

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    And the red white and blue one looked like this

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    These are images from SJ BMW's (http://www.sjbmw.com/bikes.asp?s=new&bid=198) web site.

    Is there a different 2013 R1200GS out there, with the exhaust pipe pointing forward, that weighs 525 lbs with a 720W alternator (things that drew my attention)?

    Honestly, I haven't been paying attention to the new R1200GS as of late, and thought all 2013's were water cooled (to some degree).
  18. zzrwood

    zzrwood Adventurer

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    Hi Patrick

    Those pictures are of the previous model. The current R1200GS (water-cooled) is a completely new bike sharing no parts with the ones pictured.

    Cheers

    Robert from Oz
  19. PatrickM

    PatrickM Been here awhile

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    Ah, thanks for the clarification! I thought that "2013" was equal to "liquid cooled" ... so I do feel better now that I am not waiting for one of the new new ones!
  20. Rauven

    Rauven I like the cold...

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    Time for the morning news update. (NLS, got you again, you need to be faster ;) )

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